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Facebook is against web outside Facebook.

by ungzd 10y ago

mau 10y ago
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network FB Audience Network is already in Beta for Mobile Web [1], they might investigate to expand this business for Desktop Web too. [1] https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network/mobileweb https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network/mobile...
- spiderfarmer 10y ago
  They should.
SN76477 10y ago
Yep, Facebook do not want you on the internet, they want you on Facebook. It is atrocious.
- coderdude 10y ago
  It's getting hard to tell the difference between sarcasm and real opinions on here.
  - pc86 10y ago
    Let's not forget folks, a company wanting you to use its platform is "atrocious" now.
    - drdeca 10y ago
      A company wanting nearly all internet usage to be through them would be, I think. It's kind of different than just wanting a product to be used. The question is whether this is what they want. It seems like something similar may be.
iheartmemcache 10y ago
Is that actual mandate from FB leadership? Between the Like buttons that track visit habits (used actively in non-FB marketing since 2014[1]), native FB visits + tracking on that, mobile tracking[2], and volunteered information, Facebook + their share widgets probably has information parity with Google + the Google Analytics aggregate information + Gmail (which has the added "benefit" of only needing one party to profile multiple people - i.e., John uses gmail and CC's 15 non-gmail users about $foo provides Gmail with a certain amount of information). The Forbes article is a really good analysis (albeit from 2014) as to the specifics of their privacy policy (which, as I understand it, doesn't give out PII, but certainly has the potential to craft an 'anonymized' profile on a user). Car insurance companies, mortgage companies, health insurance companies (fans of McDonalds!), etc could do wonders with that data[3] compared to how crude their existing metrics are. [1] http://adage.com/article/digital/facebook-web-browsing-history-ad-targeting/293656/ http://adage.com/article/digital/facebook-web-browsing-histo... [2] http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/13/facebook-web-app-tracking-for-ads/#4f8cdb563cd0 http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/13/facebook-... [3] Mortgage lending has certain 'fair lending' and anti-discriminatory practices to counteract things like reverse redlining[4] after the whole racial discriminatory scandal thing, but exploiting the law is easier than exploiting the instruction pointer on a Linux 2.2 box haha. [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage_discrimination#Reverse_redlining https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage_discrimination#Revers...

Facebook is against web outside Facebook.

by ungzd 10y ago

Facebook is against web outside Facebook.

mau 10y ago

https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network FB Audience Network is already in Beta for Mobile Web [1], they might investigate to expand this business for Desktop Web too. [1] https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network/mobileweb https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network/mobile...

spiderfarmer 10y ago
They should.

SN76477 10y ago

Yep, Facebook do not want you on the internet, they want you on Facebook. It is atrocious.

coderdude 10y ago
It's getting hard to tell the difference between sarcasm and real opinions on here.
- pc86 10y ago
  Let's not forget folks, a company wanting you to use its platform is "atrocious" now.
  - drdeca 10y ago
    A company wanting nearly all internet usage to be through them would be, I think. It's kind of different than just wanting a product to be used. The question is whether this is what they want. It seems like something similar may be.

iheartmemcache 10y ago

Is that actual mandate from FB leadership? Between the Like buttons that track visit habits (used actively in non-FB marketing since 2014[1]), native FB visits + tracking on that, mobile tracking[2], and volunteered information, Facebook + their share widgets probably has information parity with Google + the Google Analytics aggregate information + Gmail (which has the added "benefit" of only needing one party to profile multiple people - i.e., John uses gmail and CC's 15 non-gmail users about $foo provides Gmail with a certain amount of information). The Forbes article is a really good analysis (albeit from 2014) as to the specifics of their privacy policy (which, as I understand it, doesn't give out PII, but certainly has the potential to craft an 'anonymized' profile on a user). Car insurance companies, mortgage companies, health insurance companies (fans of McDonalds!), etc could do wonders with that data[3] compared to how crude their existing metrics are. [1] http://adage.com/article/digital/facebook-web-browsing-history-ad-targeting/293656/ http://adage.com/article/digital/facebook-web-browsing-histo... [2] http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/13/facebook-web-app-tracking-for-ads/#4f8cdb563cd0 http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/13/facebook-... [3] Mortgage lending has certain 'fair lending' and anti-discriminatory practices to counteract things like reverse redlining[4] after the whole racial discriminatory scandal thing, but exploiting the law is easier than exploiting the instruction pointer on a Linux 2.2 box haha. [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage_discrimination#Reverse_redlining https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage_discrimination#Revers...