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The market is going towards increased sophistication and incremental updates for operating systems. At the same time you have to be able to compete with low cos

by uola 10y ago

The market is going towards increased sophistication and incremental updates for operating systems. At the same time you have to be able to compete with low cost or free alternatives. Pretending that you can do that, without limiting the number of versions you have to maintain, is worse in the long-term.

jolux 10y ago
Well then they'd be wise to offer free Windows 10 upgrades to Windows 7 users forever instead of charging for it after July 29th 2016. And yes, I know they have to make money, but Apple hasn't charged for an OS upgrade in ~3 (soon to be 4) years now and that is their competition. If they were serious about getting people to use Windows 10 they'd let people stay on 7 until their compatibility concerns are fixed.
- kyriakos 10y ago
  I'll ignore the Apple comment since everyone knows the reason for that. What we don't currently know (I think) is if Microsoft will charge a premium for upgrades after the 29th. From what I've read they haven't announced upgrade pricing which means it either won't have an upgrade version (i.e. you pay full price) or it will be a dirt cheap and they won't announce it in hope they get more Win10 installs before the expire date.
  - jolux 10y ago
    Indeed I know the reason for it. However the fact remains that Windows cannot be both more expensive and worse, which in my opinion it is.
  - kgwgk 10y ago
    > The free upgrade offer will end on July 29 and we want to make sure you don’t miss out. After July 29th, you’ll be able to continue to get Windows 10 on a new device, or purchase a full version of Windows 10 Home for $119. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/05/05/windows-10-now-on-300-million-active-devices-free-upgrade-offer-to-end-soon/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/05/05/windo... It seems there will be no other upgrade path than paying $119. But of course it's not unlikely that they will be forced to extend the offer or give some other option.
  - WorldMaker 10y ago
    From the attached article: «The free Windows 10 upgrade offer ends on July 29, after which you'll be charged £99/€135/$119 for Windows 10 Home or £190 for Windows 10 Pro.» The upgrade costs are in line with historic upgrade costs for Windows.
- yuhong 10y ago
  Yea, I have been thinking of selling Windows to a non profit foundation for a while now.

by uola 10y ago

jolux 10y ago

Well then they'd be wise to offer free Windows 10 upgrades to Windows 7 users forever instead of charging for it after July 29th 2016. And yes, I know they have to make money, but Apple hasn't charged for an OS upgrade in ~3 (soon to be 4) years now and that is their competition. If they were serious about getting people to use Windows 10 they'd let people stay on 7 until their compatibility concerns are fixed.

kyriakos 10y ago
I'll ignore the Apple comment since everyone knows the reason for that. What we don't currently know (I think) is if Microsoft will charge a premium for upgrades after the 29th. From what I've read they haven't announced upgrade pricing which means it either won't have an upgrade version (i.e. you pay full price) or it will be a dirt cheap and they won't announce it in hope they get more Win10 installs before the expire date.
- jolux 10y ago
  Indeed I know the reason for it. However the fact remains that Windows cannot be both more expensive and worse, which in my opinion it is.
- kgwgk 10y ago
  > The free upgrade offer will end on July 29 and we want to make sure you don’t miss out. After July 29th, you’ll be able to continue to get Windows 10 on a new device, or purchase a full version of Windows 10 Home for $119. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/05/05/windows-10-now-on-300-million-active-devices-free-upgrade-offer-to-end-soon/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/05/05/windo... It seems there will be no other upgrade path than paying $119. But of course it's not unlikely that they will be forced to extend the offer or give some other option.
- WorldMaker 10y ago
  From the attached article: «The free Windows 10 upgrade offer ends on July 29, after which you'll be charged £99/€135/$119 for Windows 10 Home or £190 for Windows 10 Pro.» The upgrade costs are in line with historic upgrade costs for Windows.
yuhong 10y ago
Yea, I have been thinking of selling Windows to a non profit foundation for a while now.