> Steven didn't make a clear distinction between naive environmentalists and other kinds But you do agree that he did NOT say people who desire clean air are l

> Steven didn't make a clear distinction between naive environmentalists and other kinds But you do agree that he did NOT say people who desire clean air are like religious fundamentalists, right? Isn't it clear from context that he's talking about the intrusive kind of environmentalists who try to impose their preference onto others (not people who want clean water for their kids)? It was clear to me at least. I think some words (like "environmentalist" or "feminist") are so tainted by bad actors (who mostly rely on superstition and indoctrination) who label themselves as such that good actors (who mostly rely on reason and evidence) who used to call themselves that no longer want to use those words to describe themselves, and I think it's an understandable sentiment. I think fossil fuels are great, and I eat meat every day and I appreciate factory farming that allows me to do so, and I don't recycle. I don't have any data on this but I think most people who call themselves environmentalists probably don't want to call someone like me an environmentalist, and I'm fine with that.