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> Islam Muslims killing people because it is Haram to draw cartoon pictures of their imaginary sky god. Muslims sexually harassing woman in Cologne on New Yea

> Islam Muslims killing people because it is Haram to draw cartoon pictures of their imaginary sky god. Muslims sexually harassing woman in Cologne on New Years. Muslims "call to prayer" blaring over load speakers in non-Islamic countries but in their own Muslim created "suburbs". Muslims wanting public swimming pools gender-segregated. If the only way to break the ebb of this tide is through conservative/right-leaning/populist politics then this is exactly what will happen, if the majority so wills it. The actual point is that these are real or perceived to be real grievances that the current political elite are _refusing to entertain as legitimate concerns_. They're not even asking for a "definition". They are flat-out dismissing it as bigotry, racism, "a small minority of disgruntled people", etc. So people have turned to e.g. Trump, who openly talks about this and offers plain and simple plans that address these issues: Build a big wall, deport millions of illegals, etc. You can disagree, but it's a simple solution that people understand.

wvenable 10y ago
Aren't all those things already illegal? It is really hard to find people on either side of the political spectrum that wouldn't agree that those things should remain illegal and be enforced. So most people don't have a problem with that, but they do have a problem with labeling an entire culture, race, or religion is immortal/illegal. That's literally the definition of racism and we should be better than that. Yet it seems like some people are in a real hurry to turn back the clock on that.
- bordercases 10y ago
  These illegal events come downstream of the policy of what tends to be liberal government: multicultural immigration done hastily, and without the necessary frameworks in place to support it. Regardless of whether these were ill-considered side-effects or whether the consequences came on purpose, they're that government's mistake and their responsibility. If you're talking to your friends, and none of you are directly involved in political office, then I don't think you're getting the opinion from the people who matter. I would beware apologists, though. I think it is the throughput or volume of importing that is most foolish about this effort, not even the intention. In Canada, there exists at least one public school that has to educate 19-22 year old Syrians who don't speak a lick of English in the midst of 15-16 year olds: same classes, same resources. It turns out that these uneducated adults are giving the administration a tough time and I fear for the sexual safety of those children.

wvenable 10y ago

Aren't all those things already illegal? It is really hard to find people on either side of the political spectrum that wouldn't agree that those things should remain illegal and be enforced. So most people don't have a problem with that, but they do have a problem with labeling an entire culture, race, or religion is immortal/illegal. That's literally the definition of racism and we should be better than that. Yet it seems like some people are in a real hurry to turn back the clock on that.

bordercases 10y ago
These illegal events come downstream of the policy of what tends to be liberal government: multicultural immigration done hastily, and without the necessary frameworks in place to support it. Regardless of whether these were ill-considered side-effects or whether the consequences came on purpose, they're that government's mistake and their responsibility. If you're talking to your friends, and none of you are directly involved in political office, then I don't think you're getting the opinion from the people who matter. I would beware apologists, though. I think it is the throughput or volume of importing that is most foolish about this effort, not even the intention. In Canada, there exists at least one public school that has to educate 19-22 year old Syrians who don't speak a lick of English in the midst of 15-16 year olds: same classes, same resources. It turns out that these uneducated adults are giving the administration a tough time and I fear for the sexual safety of those children.