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Fork it, name it whatever you want. Problem solved, welcome to open source.

madgar 10y ago
An idea which creates a new social problem. Welcome to open source!
theli0nheart 10y ago
I really dislike this attitude. Sure, you can change the name (or do whatever you want) by forking, but what would that really achieve? Forking for a reason like this without a conversation isn't polite, nor will it likely achieve the best outcome.
- tzakrajs 10y ago
  What it could achieve is a clone that simply replaces the names and requires very little maintenance. If the community agrees and adopts, then politeness be damned. Edit: To put the converse: If it's a shitty idea, then no one will use it and it didn't matter that you were polite anyways.
  - 1209102312 10y ago
    Parasitic attitudes like this one drive away original authors. There should be a license to exclude assholes from using open source.
    - tzakrajs 10y ago
      You should create it, you probably know best how to write it.
  - cyphar 10y ago
    To be fair, this did happen with GCC. But everyone hated everyone else for years as a result. Forking fractures a community -- for something as trivial as this it isn't worth it. But it is worth DoSing the maintainer until they realise that making an encryption program called "Felony" is a brain-dead idea.
    - Teever 10y ago
      I don't think you get the point. It may be a braindead idea but it's their idea. If you don't like it, fork it. If you don't like it, write your own. But don't complain because someone wrote some software and kindly published it for all to use for free.
      - cyphar 10y ago
        > It may be a braindead idea but it's their idea. If you don't like it, fork it. Because that's how PR works. The problem is that it's a publicity problem, not a technical problem. Technical problems are solved by forks, but publicity problems have to be solved by the community. > But don't complain because someone wrote some software and kindly published it for all to use for free. And then decided to give it a name that actively bombards the crypto community's efforts to bring encryption to the masses. Sure, it's free software and that's fine. But it's free software that will cause a PR nightmare for no good reason. "Hackers and terrorists are using a new app called 'Felony' to steal your money and freedom." -- That's the headline here.
freshhawk 10y ago
Yeah, hostile forks for minor reasons go over real well in the open source community. Don't welcome people to a community you obviously don't have much experience in please!
Retra 10y ago
That doesn't solve the problem. Now your problem is you use "X" and nobody knows what that is unless you're going to say "it's a fork of Felony," which puts you back at square one. You might as well just be offering to not refer to it at all by any name.

An idea which creates a new social problem. Welcome to open source!

I really dislike this attitude. Sure, you can change the name (or do whatever you want) by forking, but what would that really achieve? Forking for a reason like this without a conversation isn't polite, nor will it likely achieve the best outcome.

tzakrajs 10y ago
What it could achieve is a clone that simply replaces the names and requires very little maintenance. If the community agrees and adopts, then politeness be damned. Edit: To put the converse: If it's a shitty idea, then no one will use it and it didn't matter that you were polite anyways.
- 1209102312 10y ago
  Parasitic attitudes like this one drive away original authors. There should be a license to exclude assholes from using open source.
  - tzakrajs 10y ago
    You should create it, you probably know best how to write it.
- cyphar 10y ago
  To be fair, this did happen with GCC. But everyone hated everyone else for years as a result. Forking fractures a community -- for something as trivial as this it isn't worth it. But it is worth DoSing the maintainer until they realise that making an encryption program called "Felony" is a brain-dead idea.
  - Teever 10y ago
    I don't think you get the point. It may be a braindead idea but it's their idea. If you don't like it, fork it. If you don't like it, write your own. But don't complain because someone wrote some software and kindly published it for all to use for free.
    - cyphar 10y ago
      > It may be a braindead idea but it's their idea. If you don't like it, fork it. Because that's how PR works. The problem is that it's a publicity problem, not a technical problem. Technical problems are solved by forks, but publicity problems have to be solved by the community. > But don't complain because someone wrote some software and kindly published it for all to use for free. And then decided to give it a name that actively bombards the crypto community's efforts to bring encryption to the masses. Sure, it's free software and that's fine. But it's free software that will cause a PR nightmare for no good reason. "Hackers and terrorists are using a new app called 'Felony' to steal your money and freedom." -- That's the headline here.

freshhawk 10y ago

Yeah, hostile forks for minor reasons go over real well in the open source community. Don't welcome people to a community you obviously don't have much experience in please!

Retra 10y ago

That doesn't solve the problem. Now your problem is you use "X" and nobody knows what that is unless you're going to say "it's a fork of Felony," which puts you back at square one. You might as well just be offering to not refer to it at all by any name.