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Ok, First of all, I feel like "around the world" is stretching it a bit much for the purposes of the article. Secondly, I don't think you can explain the core r

Ok, First of all, I feel like "around the world" is stretching it a bit much for the purposes of the article. Secondly, I don't think you can explain the core reasons for this without talking about a specific country, because despite the similarities of even, say, the US and the U.K., the underlying causalities are much different. Thirdly, it is ominous when the author talks about the media consuming educated group, because the main thing being ignored in that front is the fact that operation mockingbird never went away and (the US at least) has turned propaganda into an invasive art. People are dangerous when they are easily propagandized, but especially moreso when they don't even realize it. Of course that's why in politics the 50-80 year olds are the primary target. Because they vote and they consume the bullshit off $TVStation with little incredulity. This is also why the Internet is under increasing threat from the supranational oligarchy, because the anarchistic freedom of thought it encourages is dangerous to them. I could tell you about where this trend is going, but that would involve conspiracy theory and nasty confrontation of facts that most people don't want to do to be honest. As for why "the people" are trusting "the government" less, I think while much of it is the natural reaction to a government with corruption run amok, I have a sneaking suspicion that at least some of the increased distrust for government is a deliberate play by the supranational oligarchy vying to undermine the only thing that truly has any reigns around its neck, and that's government. The other main factor is the lack of the rule of law. I think the lack of it has always been there, with varying degrees by subject of course, but now people find out about the true extent of the corruption and lack of rule of law via the Internet and I think it's breeding revolutionary attitudes. When everyone sees stuff like bankers do obviously illegal, immoral, and amoral stuff, then get paid for it, and then get no legal repercussions, the rest of us are slowly gonna start saying "fuck it", and abandoning faith in institutions.

marknutter 10y ago
Who bailed out the bankers? Oh, that's right – the institution you describe as the "only thing that truly has any reigns around its neck". I'm not surprised your prediction involves a conspiracy theory.
- arca_vorago 10y ago
  See, you actually bring up a good point, which is that the common discourse tends to divide into anti government/pro business, pro government/anti business, when in reality part of the problem is the lines between business and gov are so blurred how can you tell? I get the feeling you are on the bad gov/pro bus side, but I don't want to put words into your mouth. So yes, the gov did bail out the bankers, but mostly because of regulatory capture and essentially hostage holding from the banks (holding our economy with a gun to its head saying give me the money or I'll shoot!), so this is where I usually hear about how it's the people's fault for electing the government. So how we can keep going up the chain? In the end the responsibility for the welfare of the people is the government, so though we have allowed our citizenry to be propagandized and our votes manipulated until they almost don't count, the real prescription lays in effective and properly representative constitutional government. That's what America was founded on, and while it was never perfect it is what we should strive for. I have seen first hand what reduction of government just because people are afraid of it does in many places. West Texas for example, ends up with privatizing water, electricity, and numerous other things, and then all the people are wondering why their service is bad, hugely overpriced, and rife with corruption, and worst of all complete lack of accountability. Be very very wary of the knee jerk reaction to bad government being to get rid of government vs improving the existing one. That being said, I have always been a fan of G Edward Griffon's saying, "If in doubt, choose less government". So please don't confuse me with a new dealer or anything that extreme. I see your point, I just think there is more room for nuance in the discussion.
  - marknutter 10y ago
    I'd say I'm a business-bad/government-worse person but I'll choose lots of bad businesses who can't tax people over one massive and corrupt government who can tax people.

marknutter 10y ago

Who bailed out the bankers? Oh, that's right – the institution you describe as the "only thing that truly has any reigns around its neck". I'm not surprised your prediction involves a conspiracy theory.

arca_vorago 10y ago
See, you actually bring up a good point, which is that the common discourse tends to divide into anti government/pro business, pro government/anti business, when in reality part of the problem is the lines between business and gov are so blurred how can you tell? I get the feeling you are on the bad gov/pro bus side, but I don't want to put words into your mouth. So yes, the gov did bail out the bankers, but mostly because of regulatory capture and essentially hostage holding from the banks (holding our economy with a gun to its head saying give me the money or I'll shoot!), so this is where I usually hear about how it's the people's fault for electing the government. So how we can keep going up the chain? In the end the responsibility for the welfare of the people is the government, so though we have allowed our citizenry to be propagandized and our votes manipulated until they almost don't count, the real prescription lays in effective and properly representative constitutional government. That's what America was founded on, and while it was never perfect it is what we should strive for. I have seen first hand what reduction of government just because people are afraid of it does in many places. West Texas for example, ends up with privatizing water, electricity, and numerous other things, and then all the people are wondering why their service is bad, hugely overpriced, and rife with corruption, and worst of all complete lack of accountability. Be very very wary of the knee jerk reaction to bad government being to get rid of government vs improving the existing one. That being said, I have always been a fan of G Edward Griffon's saying, "If in doubt, choose less government". So please don't confuse me with a new dealer or anything that extreme. I see your point, I just think there is more room for nuance in the discussion.
- marknutter 10y ago
  I'd say I'm a business-bad/government-worse person but I'll choose lots of bad businesses who can't tax people over one massive and corrupt government who can tax people.