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a huge influx of refugees was a risk they took knowingly, and that I feel it is only responsible to deal with. Yes and since you mention responsibilities for d

by rsp1984 10y ago

a huge influx of refugees was a risk they took knowingly, and that I feel it is only responsible to deal with. Yes and since you mention responsibilities for destabilization, I would find it appropriate if the US felt some of it too. How many Syrian refugees have they accepted so far? 10k? It's pathetic, given that Europe is absorbing 100x or 200x the amount. I'd suggest that the Nobel-peace-prize-winning US president should actually take some simple measures to help peace and accept more refugees into his country instead of shutting the borders.

douche 10y ago
Maybe Europe should close the floodgates themselves, rather than bitch about we who have been struck by the lightning bolt of sense.
- distances 10y ago
  "Floodgates" isn't really the appropriate terminology when you're talking about refugees escaping a war zone for their lives.
  - internaut 10y ago
    It is when I have people from Malawi and Nigeria wandering around outside my house. Literally right now. People from Malawi are wandering around outside my house. All illegals of course. I have no idea why the police don't deport them but it must be a political decision by higher-ups. The ones I asked don't even lie about where they are from. They are very confident they won't be deported and I am curious about why that should be. MENA countries have been troubled for many decades, often centuries. We can't take everybody merely because they are suffering. That would be like importing everybody from Boliva and Brazil because they have a lower standard of living than the USA. That is an extreme political stance to take.
    - solotronics 10y ago
      You have the power to decide what goes on in your neighborhood. Organize with like minded neighbors and take control of the situation. The police will not always be there and they don't necessarily have your best interests at heart. It's your neighborhood, it's your family, it's your country, do not lie down and let an invader take from you. Your father and grandfather fought to make their part of the world so don't give it away. I am sure this will be down voted by those who would rather give up than fight for themselves but there will always be weak people.
  - asgardiator 10y ago
    It wouldn't be appropriate if every immigrant were a refugee. But, categorically, this is false: “The number one reason why people leave Syria is not the bombs or the food or the cold, it’s because they want to find educational opportunities for their children,” Mr. Møller explains. “Every refugee is a migrant. Not every migrant is a refugee.” [ http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/un-director-admits-syrians-not-fleeing-war-gulf-countries-havent-taken-single-one/ http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/un-director-admit... ] "Six out of 10 migrants to Europe come for 'economic reasons' and are not refugees" - EU Vice President Frans Timmermans [ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/six-out-of-10-migrants-to-europe-come-for-economic-reasons-and-are-not-refugees-eu-vice-president-a6836306.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/six-out-of-10... ] "The diversity of asylum applications shows the migrant crisis is driven by more than just Syria’s collapse.... Only 21 per cent were from Syria." [ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/11877088/Not-every-migrant-is-fleeing-Syrias-war.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/11877088/N... ] The vast majority of immigrants are simply looking to take advantage of European Union countries' superior infrastructure and aid/benefit programs.

by rsp1984 10y ago

douche 10y ago

Maybe Europe should close the floodgates themselves, rather than bitch about we who have been struck by the lightning bolt of sense.

distances 10y ago
"Floodgates" isn't really the appropriate terminology when you're talking about refugees escaping a war zone for their lives.
- internaut 10y ago
  It is when I have people from Malawi and Nigeria wandering around outside my house. Literally right now. People from Malawi are wandering around outside my house. All illegals of course. I have no idea why the police don't deport them but it must be a political decision by higher-ups. The ones I asked don't even lie about where they are from. They are very confident they won't be deported and I am curious about why that should be. MENA countries have been troubled for many decades, often centuries. We can't take everybody merely because they are suffering. That would be like importing everybody from Boliva and Brazil because they have a lower standard of living than the USA. That is an extreme political stance to take.
  - solotronics 10y ago
    You have the power to decide what goes on in your neighborhood. Organize with like minded neighbors and take control of the situation. The police will not always be there and they don't necessarily have your best interests at heart. It's your neighborhood, it's your family, it's your country, do not lie down and let an invader take from you. Your father and grandfather fought to make their part of the world so don't give it away. I am sure this will be down voted by those who would rather give up than fight for themselves but there will always be weak people.
- asgardiator 10y ago
  It wouldn't be appropriate if every immigrant were a refugee. But, categorically, this is false: “The number one reason why people leave Syria is not the bombs or the food or the cold, it’s because they want to find educational opportunities for their children,” Mr. Møller explains. “Every refugee is a migrant. Not every migrant is a refugee.” [ http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/un-director-admits-syrians-not-fleeing-war-gulf-countries-havent-taken-single-one/ http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/un-director-admit... ] "Six out of 10 migrants to Europe come for 'economic reasons' and are not refugees" - EU Vice President Frans Timmermans [ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/six-out-of-10-migrants-to-europe-come-for-economic-reasons-and-are-not-refugees-eu-vice-president-a6836306.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/six-out-of-10... ] "The diversity of asylum applications shows the migrant crisis is driven by more than just Syria’s collapse.... Only 21 per cent were from Syria." [ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/11877088/Not-every-migrant-is-fleeing-Syrias-war.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/11877088/N... ] The vast majority of immigrants are simply looking to take advantage of European Union countries' superior infrastructure and aid/benefit programs.