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I see it as the perfect storm, trust collapse is causing apathy, not desire to reform. when they say government is migrating toward a gerontocracy is not just

I see it as the perfect storm, trust collapse is causing apathy, not desire to reform. when they say government is migrating toward a gerontocracy is not just because politician are from the older classes, but also because younger participate less in the democratic debate, whether in the first line or by voting. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Uk_general_election_2005_by_age.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Uk_general_el... https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/9/25/1348584518824/Voter-registration-by-age-008.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=86ceb3e78c1dbe61afe66b08d8756f0f https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pict...

tonyedgecombe 10y ago
We didn't have apathy in the recent UK referendum, voter turnout was very high.
- Sacho 10y ago
  Voter turnout among the young was half compared to voter turnout by the elderly, I think, so that would reinforce parent's point. Here's a FT article with a graph* of voter turnout by age - https://next.ft.com/content/2994afe4-43b0-3763-a80c-92351473496f https://next.ft.com/content/2994afe4-43b0-3763-a80c-92351473... - it seems like, besides one particular anomaly, voter turnout among young people has been steadily declining and Brexit was a continuation of that trend. * the graph in question - https://next-geebee.ft.com/image/v1/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.ft.com%2Fftdata%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F07%2FScreen-Shot-2016-07-01-at-02.39.41.png?source=next&fit=scale-down&width=600 https://next-geebee.ft.com/image/v1/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2F...
- rinze 10y ago
  If I understand correctly, there was a significant gap between the turnout rate for the young people and the turnout rate for the elderly. https://next.ft.com/content/2994afe4-43b0-3763-a80c-92351473496f https://next.ft.com/content/2994afe4-43b0-3763-a80c-92351473...
  - JBReefer 10y ago
    So? Are young people inherently more valuable or more correct?
    - LoSboccacc 10y ago
      no, but are underrepresented because the mistrust trend seems to hit them harder and in a bad way. also, while I'd argue older people have more world experience, they are also disconnected from society advancements (which is a struggle as old as dirt) and I'd say a healthy society needs not just voting to act as an average between the groups but a dialogue where input from both sides are taken for advancement. to be honest I'm in the apathy group myself, not because I mistrust politician but because I mistrust a system that promotes a dichotomy between winners and losers on interest groups instead of leveraging both sides needs and wants synergically
    - ionised 10y ago
      No, but they have a lot more riding on the future of their country than pensioners do.

tonyedgecombe 10y ago

We didn't have apathy in the recent UK referendum, voter turnout was very high.

Sacho 10y ago
Voter turnout among the young was half compared to voter turnout by the elderly, I think, so that would reinforce parent's point. Here's a FT article with a graph* of voter turnout by age - https://next.ft.com/content/2994afe4-43b0-3763-a80c-92351473496f https://next.ft.com/content/2994afe4-43b0-3763-a80c-92351473... - it seems like, besides one particular anomaly, voter turnout among young people has been steadily declining and Brexit was a continuation of that trend. * the graph in question - https://next-geebee.ft.com/image/v1/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.ft.com%2Fftdata%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F07%2FScreen-Shot-2016-07-01-at-02.39.41.png?source=next&fit=scale-down&width=600 https://next-geebee.ft.com/image/v1/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2F...
rinze 10y ago
If I understand correctly, there was a significant gap between the turnout rate for the young people and the turnout rate for the elderly. https://next.ft.com/content/2994afe4-43b0-3763-a80c-92351473496f https://next.ft.com/content/2994afe4-43b0-3763-a80c-92351473...
- JBReefer 10y ago
  So? Are young people inherently more valuable or more correct?
  - LoSboccacc 10y ago
    no, but are underrepresented because the mistrust trend seems to hit them harder and in a bad way. also, while I'd argue older people have more world experience, they are also disconnected from society advancements (which is a struggle as old as dirt) and I'd say a healthy society needs not just voting to act as an average between the groups but a dialogue where input from both sides are taken for advancement. to be honest I'm in the apathy group myself, not because I mistrust politician but because I mistrust a system that promotes a dichotomy between winners and losers on interest groups instead of leveraging both sides needs and wants synergically
  - ionised 10y ago
    No, but they have a lot more riding on the future of their country than pensioners do.