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> being able to prove things about some beautiful intricate mathematical structure most of the times doesn't help you much with the world of matter. How about
by philh 10y ago
> being able to prove things about some beautiful intricate mathematical structure most of the times doesn't help you much with the world of matter.
How about discovering a flaw in human crypto systems?
> Super-intelligence won't help you with stock market because it's purely random game.
Humans can't reliably exploit the stock market, because we're competing against other humans. It's not that there are no patterns, it's that as soon as someone discovers a pattern, people rush to exploit it and then it's tapped out. Imagine you were the first human stock trader to think of "buy stocks in companies when their product announcements get featured in newspapers"; and imagine that however much you tried to explain your strategy to the other stock traders, they just didn't get it. You wouldn't always pick a winner, but you'd make a lot of money.
How confident are you that AI won't be able to find something like that?
- scotty79 10y ago> How about discovering a flaw in human crypto systems? Very good point. As for stock market I'm fairly confident that there won't be strategies that AI can figure out that people won't catch on as fast as any other strategy. I think that's because stock market has very narrow API, and more complex strategies would involve piling up operations, doing multiple steps. Every problem that involves any probabilistic element (or uncertainty) quickly becomes unpredictable as number of steps grows. I don't believe AI can be better at stock market than us because it's a simple game of chance.