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As a New Zealander, please stay where you are. New Zealanders use guns as tools but we don't need the kind of obsessive insistence on widespread gun ownership

As a New Zealander, please stay where you are. New Zealanders use guns as tools but we don't need the kind of obsessive insistence on widespread gun ownership that people in the US are so maniacal about spreading. I like hunting but the almost religious passion for guns that some Americans have, I find very disturbing.

tluyben2 10y ago
> almost religious I would remove the word almost: a whole beliefsystem, usually peppered with paranoia about the state-machine oppressor is built around the them.
gravypod 10y ago
I am not sure if you have read my initial comment so I will write it again here: "I wish there were places like New Zealand and Australia with less restrictive laws. It's practically the most ideal place for a person like me to live except the local laws are alien and restrictive to me." > please stay where you are. I intent to do so. I never intended to move to NZ due to restrictions on things I like. > maniacal about spreading I never asked to spread my opinions to other countries. I have only attempted to give a fair depiction of how ineffective the restrictions on firearms ownership are. Please read this for my exact concerns: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12028162 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12028162 > kind of obsessive insistence on widespread gun ownership [...] that some Americans have, I find very disturbing. (Nice you nicked the bit about it being religion before I had a go at it ;)) No I don't think I am being obsessive. I think if you read my original post you will understand better. I am saying "I don't want to go here because X". This boils down to: I have N places to choose to live in for retirement. In choice A I am allowed to do everything I want, in choice B I am not. Why move to choice B? That makes no sense to me. I also don't think that is an obsessive attitude. Edit: (I clicked reply a little too soon) I'm sorry to say, but New Zealand and Australia aren't the only safe and friendly countries in the world. I can move to many places other then there and get the same protection and standard of living (often for a cheaper price point) then in New Zealand.

tluyben2 10y ago

> almost religious I would remove the word almost: a whole beliefsystem, usually peppered with paranoia about the state-machine oppressor is built around the them.

gravypod 10y ago

I am not sure if you have read my initial comment so I will write it again here: "I wish there were places like New Zealand and Australia with less restrictive laws. It's practically the most ideal place for a person like me to live except the local laws are alien and restrictive to me." > please stay where you are. I intent to do so. I never intended to move to NZ due to restrictions on things I like. > maniacal about spreading I never asked to spread my opinions to other countries. I have only attempted to give a fair depiction of how ineffective the restrictions on firearms ownership are. Please read this for my exact concerns: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12028162 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12028162 > kind of obsessive insistence on widespread gun ownership [...] that some Americans have, I find very disturbing. (Nice you nicked the bit about it being religion before I had a go at it ;)) No I don't think I am being obsessive. I think if you read my original post you will understand better. I am saying "I don't want to go here because X". This boils down to: I have N places to choose to live in for retirement. In choice A I am allowed to do everything I want, in choice B I am not. Why move to choice B? That makes no sense to me. I also don't think that is an obsessive attitude. Edit: (I clicked reply a little too soon) I'm sorry to say, but New Zealand and Australia aren't the only safe and friendly countries in the world. I can move to many places other then there and get the same protection and standard of living (often for a cheaper price point) then in New Zealand.