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My dream is to get a Green Card. I don't have a degree. Is my only option to marry an American citizen?

dominotw 10y ago
yea i think that would be the only option if you don't have a degree. unless you are an Olympic medalist( for example( who can get O visa.
chrisper 10y ago
Work experience can replace the requirement for a degree (I think). Have you lived in the US before? It is not as great as it seems from the outside. (My dream once was to get a greencard, but I came to the US through a student visa and after some years I can say that that dream surely has gone away)
- somethingsimple 10y ago
  What did you find disappointing about the US? I moved here a few years ago and have had my Green Card for a while. The US is every bit as I expected and even more. I love this country more than I've ever loved my home country.
  - chrisper 10y ago
    Where did you move from? I think that makes the difference between loving it or not loving it.
    - somethingsimple 10y ago
      Brazil.
      - chrisper 10y ago
        Yeah. I came here from a wealthy European country. So obviously my expectations and experiences will be different.
  - GunboatDiplomat 10y ago
    We love you to! Most of us, anyway.
    - somethingsimple 10y ago
      :)
- miguelrochefort 10y ago
  I go to the US 2-3 times a year. I have been to over 30 states. I'm from Canada. Everything is better in the US. Better companies, better cities, better salaries, better healthcare, better prices, better services, better schools, lower taxes, etc. 99% of the content I read online seems to be aimed at american people. All the advice, tips, tricks, guides and news assume that the reader lives in the US. You would be surprised how often (online) american people assume that they're talking to other american people. Sorry, but the service, loophole, employer, store, offer or product doesn't exist here in Canada. And when you look at the tech salaries in the US. How can you NOT feel envious?
  - the_mitsuhiko 10y ago
    Because there is than money. A lot of the things I value, America is not very good at or it does not think of it as important. So I'm not envious :)
    - chrisper 10y ago
      Yes. I think it very much depends on where you grew up. I am from a wealthy European Country, so some things turn me away more than it would others.
  - chrisper 10y ago
    >How can you NOT feel envious? Because to me money is not everything. Shitty public schools are an issue. Everyone has money, but no one pays taxes. The shrinking middle class is an issue and so is the wealth gap that you can see almost everywhere in the US. For someone from a country that has less rich, but also less poor, this is standing out quite a lot. Healthcare is not that great in the US, I am not sure why you are saying that. If you do not go to the doctor because you feel it is too expensive, then there is certainly something wrong. The American Society is an issue. Political Correctness everywhere is harming this country a lot. >99% of the content I read online seems to be aimed at american people. Well, if you are browsing American websites, why does it surprise you? Now, I do not hate everything about the US. I like certain things here and if immigration would be easier, I would probably decide to stay, especially, since I feel very American after all these years being here. All I am saying is that the US is not as awesome as I thought it would be, especially not if one is from a wealthy European country.
fennecfoxen 10y ago
As far as I know this immigration flowchart is still accurate (possibly with certain omissions for things like for fancy Australian visas): http://reason.com/assets/db/immigration-flow-chart.jpg http://reason.com/assets/db/immigration-flow-chart.jpg
- dingdongding 10y ago
  Thanks. This flowchart is awesome
- miguelrochefort 10y ago
  How does one demonstrate he's a genius?
  - GFischer 10y ago
    On another HN thread, several commenters did get that visa (O-1 Extraordinary Ability), apparently you need some well-known prizes (Nobel Prize would be best, or Turing Award, but apparently Google/O'Reilly Hacker of the Year works too) and national media coverage. Quotes from other threads: From USCIS: * Receipt of nationally or internationally recognized prizes or awards for excellence in the field of endeavor * Membership in associations in the field for which classification is sought which require outstanding achievements, as judged by recognized national or international experts in the field * Published material in professional or major trade publications, newspapers or other major media about the beneficiary and the beneficiary’s work in the field for which classification is sought * Original scientific, scholarly, or business-related contributions of major significance in the field * Authorship of scholarly articles in professional journals or other major media in the field for which classification is sought * A high salary or other remuneration for services as evidenced by contracts or other reliable evidence * Participation on a panel, or individually, as a judge of the work of others in the same or in a field of specialization allied to that field for which classification is sought * Employment in a critical or essential capacity for organizations and establishments that have a distinguished reputation For science: - publications - recommendation letters (preferably a blend from business, research and politicians) - awards (even things like "the best paper" of a small conference with only 30 papers from local researchers) - interviews - be a member of an association only open to certain persons (for example with a Ph.D. you qualify for IEEE membership, and they will deliver a good-looking membership certificate) So having a Ph.D is not enough, but if are a decently successful researcher and have a good network for the recommendation letters (or your future employer), you can get it without being of Turing award level. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8228338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8228338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10400912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10400912

yea i think that would be the only option if you don't have a degree. unless you are an Olympic medalist( for example( who can get O visa.

chrisper 10y ago

Work experience can replace the requirement for a degree (I think). Have you lived in the US before? It is not as great as it seems from the outside. (My dream once was to get a greencard, but I came to the US through a student visa and after some years I can say that that dream surely has gone away)

somethingsimple 10y ago
What did you find disappointing about the US? I moved here a few years ago and have had my Green Card for a while. The US is every bit as I expected and even more. I love this country more than I've ever loved my home country.
- chrisper 10y ago
  Where did you move from? I think that makes the difference between loving it or not loving it.
  - somethingsimple 10y ago
    Brazil.
    - chrisper 10y ago
      Yeah. I came here from a wealthy European country. So obviously my expectations and experiences will be different.
- GunboatDiplomat 10y ago
  We love you to! Most of us, anyway.
  - somethingsimple 10y ago
    :)
miguelrochefort 10y ago
I go to the US 2-3 times a year. I have been to over 30 states. I'm from Canada. Everything is better in the US. Better companies, better cities, better salaries, better healthcare, better prices, better services, better schools, lower taxes, etc. 99% of the content I read online seems to be aimed at american people. All the advice, tips, tricks, guides and news assume that the reader lives in the US. You would be surprised how often (online) american people assume that they're talking to other american people. Sorry, but the service, loophole, employer, store, offer or product doesn't exist here in Canada. And when you look at the tech salaries in the US. How can you NOT feel envious?
- the_mitsuhiko 10y ago
  Because there is than money. A lot of the things I value, America is not very good at or it does not think of it as important. So I'm not envious :)
  - chrisper 10y ago
    Yes. I think it very much depends on where you grew up. I am from a wealthy European Country, so some things turn me away more than it would others.
- chrisper 10y ago
  >How can you NOT feel envious? Because to me money is not everything. Shitty public schools are an issue. Everyone has money, but no one pays taxes. The shrinking middle class is an issue and so is the wealth gap that you can see almost everywhere in the US. For someone from a country that has less rich, but also less poor, this is standing out quite a lot. Healthcare is not that great in the US, I am not sure why you are saying that. If you do not go to the doctor because you feel it is too expensive, then there is certainly something wrong. The American Society is an issue. Political Correctness everywhere is harming this country a lot. >99% of the content I read online seems to be aimed at american people. Well, if you are browsing American websites, why does it surprise you? Now, I do not hate everything about the US. I like certain things here and if immigration would be easier, I would probably decide to stay, especially, since I feel very American after all these years being here. All I am saying is that the US is not as awesome as I thought it would be, especially not if one is from a wealthy European country.

fennecfoxen 10y ago

As far as I know this immigration flowchart is still accurate (possibly with certain omissions for things like for fancy Australian visas): http://reason.com/assets/db/immigration-flow-chart.jpg http://reason.com/assets/db/immigration-flow-chart.jpg

dingdongding 10y ago
Thanks. This flowchart is awesome
miguelrochefort 10y ago
How does one demonstrate he's a genius?
- GFischer 10y ago
  On another HN thread, several commenters did get that visa (O-1 Extraordinary Ability), apparently you need some well-known prizes (Nobel Prize would be best, or Turing Award, but apparently Google/O'Reilly Hacker of the Year works too) and national media coverage. Quotes from other threads: From USCIS: * Receipt of nationally or internationally recognized prizes or awards for excellence in the field of endeavor * Membership in associations in the field for which classification is sought which require outstanding achievements, as judged by recognized national or international experts in the field * Published material in professional or major trade publications, newspapers or other major media about the beneficiary and the beneficiary’s work in the field for which classification is sought * Original scientific, scholarly, or business-related contributions of major significance in the field * Authorship of scholarly articles in professional journals or other major media in the field for which classification is sought * A high salary or other remuneration for services as evidenced by contracts or other reliable evidence * Participation on a panel, or individually, as a judge of the work of others in the same or in a field of specialization allied to that field for which classification is sought * Employment in a critical or essential capacity for organizations and establishments that have a distinguished reputation For science: - publications - recommendation letters (preferably a blend from business, research and politicians) - awards (even things like "the best paper" of a small conference with only 30 papers from local researchers) - interviews - be a member of an association only open to certain persons (for example with a Ph.D. you qualify for IEEE membership, and they will deliver a good-looking membership certificate) So having a Ph.D is not enough, but if are a decently successful researcher and have a good network for the recommendation letters (or your future employer), you can get it without being of Turing award level. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8228338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8228338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10400912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10400912