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You can get new 970 for slightly more than that... I regret buying a 380x instead. AMD drivers have serious bugs (that also affect the 480!) that they promised

by speeder 10y ago

You can get new 970 for slightly more than that... I regret buying a 380x instead. AMD drivers have serious bugs (that also affect the 480!) that they promised to fix a year ago, but not only they didn't fixed it, they also removed it from the "known issues" list on the changelogs. This was my first AMD purchase and will be my last, their hardware is mediocre (super power hungry and throttles because of that), software is outright terrible, and support from both them and Sapphire is nonexistent. And when I asked for help on forums and chats, people accused me of being nvidia paid troll and even banned me. (And someone later pointed out to me that the places that most aggressively attacked me are the ones that have AMD employees as moderators)

pierrebai 10y ago
It's always best to have specific facts when making claims. 1. Which game and which issue would that be? 2. Which driver removed it from the known issue list?
- speeder 10y ago
  The most infamous issue is nicknamed "black screen" google it and you will find tons of people complaining. And I had problems with every single software, thus why I don't considered mentioning specifics. Still, some examples: CAD software stutters heavily because the card refuset to get out of idle state unless I am gaming, regardlesst of all power saving related settings. Gtav was unplayable on most Crimson drivers, it works in the 16.6.1 but still has the occasional stutter due to power throttling. Default fan profile is terrible, launching any AAA game without third party fan software makes the card overheat, release pcb varnish smell and make coil noise. On default power limit the card throttles a lot and cause game stutter (all of them) The CCCSlim panel on Crimson didn't let me use it because according to it I had multiple monitors with genlock enabled. I was using a single monitor, and genlock is a FirePro feature. Driver crash a lot. A easy one to reproduce is entering the ingame herb encyclopedia on Shadow of Mordor. Lastest drivers Mantle is buggy (known issues list), vulkan is also crappily implemented despite being AMD invention. Browsers flicker on some driver versions for no obvious reason.
eropple 10y ago
> their hardware is mediocre It also seems like RX 480s also overdraw the PCIe bus (drawing more than 75W from the slot--cards are supposed to be able to pull 75W from the slot, 75W from the six-pin connector, and 150W from the eight-pin connector), which is potentially dangerous for the rest of your hardware, too. I went from being a steady AMD/ATI customer (last card was an HD4870) to a 980Ti and don't see myself going back anytime soon.
- jsheard 10y ago
  More on the PCI-E slot overdraw: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Power-Consumption-Concerns-Radeon-RX-480 http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Power-Consumptio... It's concerning at stock settings but gets far worse when the card is overclocked, with the card overloading the 12V pins by about 50%. AMD say they are working on a driver fix at least.

by speeder 10y ago

pierrebai 10y ago

It's always best to have specific facts when making claims. 1. Which game and which issue would that be? 2. Which driver removed it from the known issue list?

speeder 10y ago
The most infamous issue is nicknamed "black screen" google it and you will find tons of people complaining. And I had problems with every single software, thus why I don't considered mentioning specifics. Still, some examples: CAD software stutters heavily because the card refuset to get out of idle state unless I am gaming, regardlesst of all power saving related settings. Gtav was unplayable on most Crimson drivers, it works in the 16.6.1 but still has the occasional stutter due to power throttling. Default fan profile is terrible, launching any AAA game without third party fan software makes the card overheat, release pcb varnish smell and make coil noise. On default power limit the card throttles a lot and cause game stutter (all of them) The CCCSlim panel on Crimson didn't let me use it because according to it I had multiple monitors with genlock enabled. I was using a single monitor, and genlock is a FirePro feature. Driver crash a lot. A easy one to reproduce is entering the ingame herb encyclopedia on Shadow of Mordor. Lastest drivers Mantle is buggy (known issues list), vulkan is also crappily implemented despite being AMD invention. Browsers flicker on some driver versions for no obvious reason.

eropple 10y ago

> their hardware is mediocre It also seems like RX 480s also overdraw the PCIe bus (drawing more than 75W from the slot--cards are supposed to be able to pull 75W from the slot, 75W from the six-pin connector, and 150W from the eight-pin connector), which is potentially dangerous for the rest of your hardware, too. I went from being a steady AMD/ATI customer (last card was an HD4870) to a 980Ti and don't see myself going back anytime soon.

jsheard 10y ago
More on the PCI-E slot overdraw: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Power-Consumption-Concerns-Radeon-RX-480 http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Power-Consumptio... It's concerning at stock settings but gets far worse when the card is overclocked, with the card overloading the 12V pins by about 50%. AMD say they are working on a driver fix at least.