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The desperation in this article, to peddle a narrative that essentially no reasonable person can afford to buy anymore, is a little embarrassing.

eugeneionesco 10y ago
What narrative? That the "climate experts" are FUDing all the time for attention?
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- Aelinsaar 10y ago
  No. And frankly the desperate "Big Climatology" conspiracies are about as pathetic and credible as "Big Abortion" conspiracies. How desperately sad that you've tried to 'follow the money', and it led you to climatologists rather than say, petrochemicals.
  - reitanqild 10y ago
    That second thing is actually cruel, esp. late ones. Hitler would have liked all of it as he was in the quest of getting rid of not only non-Arians but also chronically ill members of his own "race". It should have been shunned, instead it is defended like some human right. Edit: I see parent is downvoted and upvoted time and time again. I did not downvote, as my issues are not with the fact that some people have weird ideas about big X, but rather with almost how parent is almost jokingly throwing this issue around. And don't worry about me, my downvotes on this are expected, earned and worn with pride although I don't usually make comments luke this.
cpncrunch 10y ago
I think you might have it backward. This article is a scientific debunking of a dubious claim. The only sad thing is that so many HN users upvoted the original story without doing even the most minimal critical appraisal of it.
- Sebguer 10y ago
  Scientific debunking? One of the primary sources is an ardent denier of climate change, and also one of those special breeds of scientists who believes 'Intelligent Design' is equally as scientific as evolution.
  - cpncrunch 10y ago
    The other source (Maue) definitely isn't a denier. Is his science wrong? If so, you should publish something...
  - nikdaheratik 10y ago
    Well IDK what else you'd call it. The claims were: 1. This particular jet stream phenomena is "unprecedented". 2. This phenomena represents some kind of "climate emergency". The response was basically a survey of several experts pointing out that: 1. It is not, in fact, unprecedented and likely something similar happens several times a year whether the multiple airflows line up exactly or not. 2. There are multiple jetstreams, the ones around the tropics lining up to push air from one part of the subtropics to another is perfectly normal, and this is neither an emergency, or climate related, or anything besides the changing of the seasons. I would also add, in my non-expert opinion, that the original article making these claims did a very poor job of trying to explain why this is an "emergency". Or even why it was related to climate change at all. Nebulous claims presented in an attention grabbing manner are not something to take very seriously, especially on the Internet.

eugeneionesco 10y ago

What narrative? That the "climate experts" are FUDing all the time for attention?

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Aelinsaar 10y ago
No. And frankly the desperate "Big Climatology" conspiracies are about as pathetic and credible as "Big Abortion" conspiracies. How desperately sad that you've tried to 'follow the money', and it led you to climatologists rather than say, petrochemicals.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  That second thing is actually cruel, esp. late ones. Hitler would have liked all of it as he was in the quest of getting rid of not only non-Arians but also chronically ill members of his own "race". It should have been shunned, instead it is defended like some human right. Edit: I see parent is downvoted and upvoted time and time again. I did not downvote, as my issues are not with the fact that some people have weird ideas about big X, but rather with almost how parent is almost jokingly throwing this issue around. And don't worry about me, my downvotes on this are expected, earned and worn with pride although I don't usually make comments luke this.

cpncrunch 10y ago

I think you might have it backward. This article is a scientific debunking of a dubious claim. The only sad thing is that so many HN users upvoted the original story without doing even the most minimal critical appraisal of it.

Sebguer 10y ago
Scientific debunking? One of the primary sources is an ardent denier of climate change, and also one of those special breeds of scientists who believes 'Intelligent Design' is equally as scientific as evolution.
- cpncrunch 10y ago
  The other source (Maue) definitely isn't a denier. Is his science wrong? If so, you should publish something...
- nikdaheratik 10y ago
  Well IDK what else you'd call it. The claims were: 1. This particular jet stream phenomena is "unprecedented". 2. This phenomena represents some kind of "climate emergency". The response was basically a survey of several experts pointing out that: 1. It is not, in fact, unprecedented and likely something similar happens several times a year whether the multiple airflows line up exactly or not. 2. There are multiple jetstreams, the ones around the tropics lining up to push air from one part of the subtropics to another is perfectly normal, and this is neither an emergency, or climate related, or anything besides the changing of the seasons. I would also add, in my non-expert opinion, that the original article making these claims did a very poor job of trying to explain why this is an "emergency". Or even why it was related to climate change at all. Nebulous claims presented in an attention grabbing manner are not something to take very seriously, especially on the Internet.