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I’m managing editor of mobilsicher.de (https://mobilsicher.de https://mobilsicher.de), the news site this story originated from. We are a relatively new site (l
by mspielkamp 10y ago
I’m managing editor of mobilsicher.de (https://mobilsicher.de https://mobilsicher.de), the news site this story originated from. We are a relatively new site (launched in Sept. 2015) and only now looked into this.
The fact that it had remained undetected because no one had taken a closer look at it for several years does not mean that the questions we ask are unwarranted.
Peter Schaar, former German federal commissioner for data security and - at the time - chairman of the ARTICLE 29 Data Protection Working Party of the EU, says Google’s practices may even violate fundamental rights under German and European law.
The current German federal commissioner for data security is looking into it because of our reporting, so does the commissioner for data security of the German federal state of Hamburg, which has authority over Google because the company’s German headquarters are located there.
We will hopefully hear from them shortly on how they assess the situation. Also, a request for a statement from the Irish DPC (Google’s EU headquarters are located in Dublin) is under way.
Researching our original story, we of course asked Google to answer our questions on whose data exactly is collected under the provisions of the private policy, what data is collected, for how long, where it is stored and why Google thinks it can justify this data collection and processing on consent to their terms and services alone.
Now, after the story was picked up by dpa, Germany’s largest national news agency, and several influential tech news sites (German language only, Golem: http://www.golem.de/news/ueberwachung-google-sammelt-gespraechsprotokolle-von-android-geraeten-1606-121856.html http://www.golem.de/news/ueberwachung-google-sammelt-gesprae... | heise: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Google-Wirbel-um-private-Vorratsdatenspeicherung-mit-Android-3252902.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Google-Wirbel-um-priv...), Google has now issued a statement that poses more questions than it answers. We published our story today (https://mobilsicher.de/aktuelles/google-speichert-telefondaten-welche-bleibt-offen https://mobilsicher.de/aktuelles/google-speichert-telefondat...) and also provided an English language version (Google admits it collects telephony log information, doesn’t specify which exactly - https://mobilsicher.de/uncategorized/google-admits-it-collects-telephony-log-information-doesnt-specify-which-exactly https://mobilsicher.de/uncategorized/google-admits-it-collec...) because we think this discussion is very relevant for an international community.
We are a small team but will keep reporting on this, trying to clarify the legal situation as well as the technical details. For this we’ll be doing more of our own analysis. In case any of you has helpful information, i.e. logs showing telephony data being transmitted to servers, please let us know (m.spielkamp at mobilsicher.de). But please make sure it can be reproduced by us, otherwise we’ll have a hard time using it.
- ak4g 10y agoWhen is the story about Google storing the emails of all Gmail users coming out? I've heard rumors they don't even just collect the metadata - they store the entire email! Indefinitely. Even if the sender wasn't using gmail, but included a single Gmail or Gapps user among the recipients, they're said to record the entire email, as well as the addresses of the sender and all the other recipients, who never consented to Google's privacy policy to begin with. I mean, the scale of the violations, it boggles the mind.