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Note that RMS almost certainly did not write the inciting post [1][2]. [1] http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3891#comment-58302 http://lambda-the-ultimate.or

Note that RMS almost certainly did not write the inciting post [1][2]. [1] http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3891#comment-58302 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3891#comment-58302 [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20110102015130/http://basiscraft.com/0800-0100-the-tcl-war.html https://web.archive.org/web/20110102015130/http://basiscraft...

hyperpape 10y ago
Dunno if I'm dense, but reading that second post, I can't figure out if he's saying Lord's name was attached to RMS's post, vice versa, or some third party attached both of their names. I'm guessing you mean it's the second possibility, but I can't figure out how you get to there from reading it.
- glv 10y ago
  Two things about it make me think that RMS actually wrote it (probably after consultation with Lord). The first is this sentence in that post by Lord: "Who cares if a post occurs under my name that I didn't post so long as I more or less agree with it -- this isn't about ego." The second is writing style. The Tcl War post is classic RMS. Compare it to this reminiscence from Lord and it's hard to imagine they were written by the same person.
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  - networked 10y ago
    When I wrote my comment above I skimmed through Thomas Lord's essay, found that the parts I remembered being there were all in their place, pasted the link and pressed "submit". In particular, I remembered the paragraph from which you quote as written in a ironic manner, suggesting with a wink at the reader that Lord actually wrote the post. Now that I've reread the essay, I don't see that at all. I think in that paragraph he probably says what he means. That, and you are right about the style. In short, I retract my claim. Sorry to whoever I misled! My confidence was completely misplaced.
    - gnufx 10y ago
      I should be wary of the account anyhow. For calibration: it's just false to say egcs was due to "friends of Cygnus" and "hostile"; it was friends of GCC with the intention it should turn out as it did, happily. I can't find anything archived to check but, as I recall, Lord later posted a bizarre sort of semi-retraction in rms' name, and rms fired him soon afterwards, possibly as a result. Perhaps that's partly a source of rms-didn't-write-it ideas? I don't remember the suggestion at the time.

hyperpape 10y ago

Dunno if I'm dense, but reading that second post, I can't figure out if he's saying Lord's name was attached to RMS's post, vice versa, or some third party attached both of their names. I'm guessing you mean it's the second possibility, but I can't figure out how you get to there from reading it.

glv 10y ago
Two things about it make me think that RMS actually wrote it (probably after consultation with Lord). The first is this sentence in that post by Lord: "Who cares if a post occurs under my name that I didn't post so long as I more or less agree with it -- this isn't about ego." The second is writing style. The Tcl War post is classic RMS. Compare it to this reminiscence from Lord and it's hard to imagine they were written by the same person.
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- networked 10y ago
  When I wrote my comment above I skimmed through Thomas Lord's essay, found that the parts I remembered being there were all in their place, pasted the link and pressed "submit". In particular, I remembered the paragraph from which you quote as written in a ironic manner, suggesting with a wink at the reader that Lord actually wrote the post. Now that I've reread the essay, I don't see that at all. I think in that paragraph he probably says what he means. That, and you are right about the style. In short, I retract my claim. Sorry to whoever I misled! My confidence was completely misplaced.
  - gnufx 10y ago
    I should be wary of the account anyhow. For calibration: it's just false to say egcs was due to "friends of Cygnus" and "hostile"; it was friends of GCC with the intention it should turn out as it did, happily. I can't find anything archived to check but, as I recall, Lord later posted a bizarre sort of semi-retraction in rms' name, and rms fired him soon afterwards, possibly as a result. Perhaps that's partly a source of rms-didn't-write-it ideas? I don't remember the suggestion at the time.