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> This takes a really, really long time just to read children's books and news articles. Movies with subtitles are much better for this. An hour or two per day

by zzzcpan 10y ago

> This takes a really, really long time just to read children's books and news articles. Movies with subtitles are much better for this. An hour or two per day for a couple of months and you get like 10x further compared to reading.

unhammer 10y ago
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0158409#sec001 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.... but make sure sublang=audiolang
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Broken_Hippo 10y ago
If you can find them, but not everyone can. They don't usually dub shows here - so many adult shows are in English. I think a good part of the movies produced are in English, and they stick Norwegian subtitles on the screen, which most folks ignore. I've found that they aren't exactly word for word - instead they are adjusted for style and culture at times. I'd have had some thing completely wrong on my own. Children's shows on the state TV channels (think BBC for Norway) were the best find. Clear language without heavy dialects (some norwegians cannot understand each other's dialects well) plus subtitles if I wanted, transcripts on the website, and simple language. And always dubbed - kids don't start learning English until around 6 years old. Video games are usually in English. I spent many hours watching Spiderman cartoons. However, I've met plenty of people that learned English solely through television shows and movies.
- alephnil 10y ago
  Yes, only children programs are dubbed here, although I disagree that people ignore them. We even subtitle programs movies in languages that more than 95% of the people don't speak, and assume that people can read the subtitles. You don't see it as much today as previously, but sometimes you could hear on cinemas that people was laughing in response to the subtitles rather than the spoken words, even for English language movies. It can still happen with movies with an older audience, though today most younger people will have watched enough movies and series downloaded from the net (without subtitles obviously) that they are more used listen to the words, and in general more exposed to English.
- digi_owl 10y ago
  One thing about those subtitles on movies and shows are that they are often done using the audio alone. I have seen some hilarious examples where the actor uses a generic term, while the subtitle use a specific term that do not match the context on screen.

by zzzcpan 10y ago

unhammer 10y ago

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0158409#sec001 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.... but make sure sublang=audiolang

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Broken_Hippo 10y ago

If you can find them, but not everyone can. They don't usually dub shows here - so many adult shows are in English. I think a good part of the movies produced are in English, and they stick Norwegian subtitles on the screen, which most folks ignore. I've found that they aren't exactly word for word - instead they are adjusted for style and culture at times. I'd have had some thing completely wrong on my own. Children's shows on the state TV channels (think BBC for Norway) were the best find. Clear language without heavy dialects (some norwegians cannot understand each other's dialects well) plus subtitles if I wanted, transcripts on the website, and simple language. And always dubbed - kids don't start learning English until around 6 years old. Video games are usually in English. I spent many hours watching Spiderman cartoons. However, I've met plenty of people that learned English solely through television shows and movies.

alephnil 10y ago
Yes, only children programs are dubbed here, although I disagree that people ignore them. We even subtitle programs movies in languages that more than 95% of the people don't speak, and assume that people can read the subtitles. You don't see it as much today as previously, but sometimes you could hear on cinemas that people was laughing in response to the subtitles rather than the spoken words, even for English language movies. It can still happen with movies with an older audience, though today most younger people will have watched enough movies and series downloaded from the net (without subtitles obviously) that they are more used listen to the words, and in general more exposed to English.
digi_owl 10y ago
One thing about those subtitles on movies and shows are that they are often done using the audio alone. I have seen some hilarious examples where the actor uses a generic term, while the subtitle use a specific term that do not match the context on screen.