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If I were you, I would rethink your "beta invite" flow. Adding an email address and clicking on the "Request Invite" button doesn't send you an invite, it adds

If I were you, I would rethink your "beta invite" flow. Adding an email address and clicking on the "Request Invite" button doesn't send you an invite, it adds you to their MailChimp newsletter list and sends an email asking you to confirm your address (for opt-in). There is no invite code or protected page, anyone can just go to https://forestry.io/beta https://forestry.io/beta to sign up. Don't trick me into opting in to your newsletter when what you promised was a beta trial. Give me access and let me test drive it; if I like the service I'll sign up for your newsletter, I'll follow you on Twitter and I'll pay money for a subscription. If you pull a bait and switch on me I'll move on.

if_by_whisky 10y ago
I'd just add a disclaimer about the newsletter to what he's already doing. I don't like email marketing either, but it works ridiculously well. No marketer would do what you're suggesting.
- parennoob 10y ago
  > I don't like email marketing either, but it works ridiculously well. No marketer would do what you're suggesting. Note that the framework is not necessarily for the average person, who would respond in a certain way to your average email marketer. It is ostensibly "Built for devs who hate bloat." Tricking someone into signing them up for a newsletter they didn't sign up for by way of a beta invite form is bloat of the malicious sort. I would say that while marketing to your target group, it is something you should avoid.
  - if_by_whisky 10y ago
    I agree you should be aboveboard
jpatters 10y ago
Co-creator here. We certainly didn't intend for this feeling and have removed the Mailchimp form. There is now just a direct link to the signup page. The people that signed up to the beta invite list will not be subscribed to our newsletters unless they sign up to Forestry and choose to opt into our newsletter. Mailchimp was simply an easy way for us to manage a list of people interested in the service. Having the list and not linking to forestry.io/beta was just our way of saving development effort. We were merely creating an artificial control over who could sign up. Rest assured that any users that have not signed up to Forestry and opted into newsletters will be sent nothing but an invite to the beta.
- tenkabuto 10y ago
  Could you please add a newsletter sign-up link or form?

if_by_whisky 10y ago

I'd just add a disclaimer about the newsletter to what he's already doing. I don't like email marketing either, but it works ridiculously well. No marketer would do what you're suggesting.

parennoob 10y ago
> I don't like email marketing either, but it works ridiculously well. No marketer would do what you're suggesting. Note that the framework is not necessarily for the average person, who would respond in a certain way to your average email marketer. It is ostensibly "Built for devs who hate bloat." Tricking someone into signing them up for a newsletter they didn't sign up for by way of a beta invite form is bloat of the malicious sort. I would say that while marketing to your target group, it is something you should avoid.
- if_by_whisky 10y ago
  I agree you should be aboveboard

jpatters 10y ago

Co-creator here. We certainly didn't intend for this feeling and have removed the Mailchimp form. There is now just a direct link to the signup page. The people that signed up to the beta invite list will not be subscribed to our newsletters unless they sign up to Forestry and choose to opt into our newsletter. Mailchimp was simply an easy way for us to manage a list of people interested in the service. Having the list and not linking to forestry.io/beta was just our way of saving development effort. We were merely creating an artificial control over who could sign up. Rest assured that any users that have not signed up to Forestry and opted into newsletters will be sent nothing but an invite to the beta.

tenkabuto 10y ago
Could you please add a newsletter sign-up link or form?