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Oh boy. Asian Men in america are a anomaly. Its strong selective bias. Open your borders to all of Asia an see what happens.
by wrong_variable 10y ago
Oh boy.
Asian Men in america are a anomaly. Its strong selective bias.
Open your borders to all of Asia an see what happens.
- sotojuan 10y agoI wonder if they're counting the thousands (tens of thousands? hundreds?) of Asian men who work manual labor or the shipping industry in areas like Manhattan's Chinatown or Brooklyn's Sunset Park. Probably not as they're mostly likely paid under the table, but they'd skew results quite a bit.
- shripadk 10y agoCan you explain how Asian men/women in America are an anomaly? Aren't Asian men/women successful in other countries (including their own) as well?
- tines 10y agoWhen you only allow the already-successful or already-high-IQ people into the selection pool, don't be surprised when you find that your pull is full of successful high-IQ people. This is called selection bias: the Asians in this study have already been filtered by the immigration process while the white people have not, so it's not a random sampling.
- shripadk 10y agoThen how do you explain the same Asians people being successful in other countries where the immigration process is not as strict as USA? By saying that "already-high-IQ" people immigrate to the home country aren't you in effect saying that there is no one in the native homeland with a higher IQ than the immigrating pool? Isn't that a self-defeating argument in itself? Are you saying that there is a preference given to Asians over white people by the employers?
- tines 10y ago> Then how do you explain the same Asians people being successful in other countries where the immigration process is not as strict as USA? Since immigration costs money and it's "easier" to stay where you are born, there is no way to escape a selection bias. > By saying that "already-high-IQ" people immigrate to the home country aren't you in effect saying that there is no one in the native homeland with a higher IQ than the immigrating pool? No, and I'm not sure how that follows. The argument that I'm defending just asserts that the ones who immigrate are "better" than average in some way. > Are you saying that there is a preference given to Asians over white people by the employers? Again, no. The preference is already given by the immigration office.
- omonra 10y agoLook at performance of Chinese all around South Asia - Malaysia, Indonesia. Or just compare Singapore with Malaysia: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=gdp+per+person+singapore+%2F+gdp+per+person+malaysia https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=gdp+per+person+singapo...
- ausjke 10y agoExactly, most Asians ended up in USA due to their education levels indeed. If a random group of Asians are imported the result will be more realistic.
- sotojuan 10y agoSee my other comment in the GP post. There are a bunch of Asian men who make little or no money (usually under the table) in the US. They're not counting them because they don't report taxes or just out of convenience.