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I got a job recently that requires business formal dress code. It's was a little frustrating until I read somewhere that by wearing dress clothes your are allow

by jrowley 10y ago

I got a job recently that requires business formal dress code. It's was a little frustrating until I read somewhere that by wearing dress clothes your are allowing yourself to kind of be branded by the company and in that way I appreciated it because it allows me to partition my identity into work and nonwork. Part of me still thinks I'd be more productive and happier in my normal street clothes though.

XorNot 10y ago
We're casual at work, but when I get home I still always change as soon as possible. However you do it, I think you attach an identity to what you're wearing.
yesiamyourdad 10y ago
My first couple jobs required dress pants, a long sleeve button down shirt, and a tie. Back then "casual friday" was a real thing, you could wear a polo and khakis. These days unless you're an attorney or in finance, nobody wears a suit. I work at a place that has a dress code that harks back to the early 90s. After spending my 20's griping about dress codes, I actually enjoy it for the same reason: it's a physical reminder of my work identity vs my non-work identity. I'm curious - how would you be more productive in casual wear? As an engineer, my main gripe was that I often worked in a lab and my tie and slacks would get snagged on the edges of the computer racks. Mostly that was an issue with ruining clothing. At the time, I remember the woman who worked full time running the lab was granted an exception to the dress code for that reason - she was constantly snagging clothing and ruining things from having to crawl around on the floor running cables and things, so they let her wear jeans and more generally rugged clothing.
- golergka 10y ago
  I think that part of modern work culture is not separating work and non-work identities. I only have this much waking hours a day, it's not enoigh time to maintain two separate identities anyway.
- raverbashing 10y ago
  > I'm curious - how would you be more productive in casual wear? Usually by taking less time to dress up and having better thermal comfort (especially in places that don't have air conditioning - yes, these exist)
HarryHirsch 10y ago
by wearing dress clothes your are allowing yourself to kind of be branded by the company Kind of like the Scouts, or priests, or soldiers? That's a good theory. All these groups do proper onboarding, though. You'd ask yourself what happened to the manager who let that batch of interns run loose. If it's East Coast finance you'd think he'd be up for culling next, in that line of work there is much indoctrination and elite-think, and the unit manager completely failed to impress on the interns just what a god-blessed lot they are to have gotten into the Company while still at school.
- smcameron 10y ago
  > branded by the company Or, like cattle.
specialist 10y ago
Dress codes are mandated uniforms. Why should I pay to wear my company's uniform? If company wants me to dress a certain way, they can pay. Either buy the clothes or pay me more. Otherwise its just shifting their expenses on to their own employees (and interns). I've been working on a new model for employer / employee relations appropriate for the 3rd millennium that I'd like to share here: Employers pay employees, not the reverse. Feedback welcome.

by jrowley 10y ago

XorNot 10y ago

We're casual at work, but when I get home I still always change as soon as possible. However you do it, I think you attach an identity to what you're wearing.

yesiamyourdad 10y ago

My first couple jobs required dress pants, a long sleeve button down shirt, and a tie. Back then "casual friday" was a real thing, you could wear a polo and khakis. These days unless you're an attorney or in finance, nobody wears a suit. I work at a place that has a dress code that harks back to the early 90s. After spending my 20's griping about dress codes, I actually enjoy it for the same reason: it's a physical reminder of my work identity vs my non-work identity. I'm curious - how would you be more productive in casual wear? As an engineer, my main gripe was that I often worked in a lab and my tie and slacks would get snagged on the edges of the computer racks. Mostly that was an issue with ruining clothing. At the time, I remember the woman who worked full time running the lab was granted an exception to the dress code for that reason - she was constantly snagging clothing and ruining things from having to crawl around on the floor running cables and things, so they let her wear jeans and more generally rugged clothing.

golergka 10y ago
I think that part of modern work culture is not separating work and non-work identities. I only have this much waking hours a day, it's not enoigh time to maintain two separate identities anyway.
raverbashing 10y ago
> I'm curious - how would you be more productive in casual wear? Usually by taking less time to dress up and having better thermal comfort (especially in places that don't have air conditioning - yes, these exist)

HarryHirsch 10y ago

by wearing dress clothes your are allowing yourself to kind of be branded by the company Kind of like the Scouts, or priests, or soldiers? That's a good theory. All these groups do proper onboarding, though. You'd ask yourself what happened to the manager who let that batch of interns run loose. If it's East Coast finance you'd think he'd be up for culling next, in that line of work there is much indoctrination and elite-think, and the unit manager completely failed to impress on the interns just what a god-blessed lot they are to have gotten into the Company while still at school.

smcameron 10y ago
> branded by the company Or, like cattle.

specialist 10y ago

Dress codes are mandated uniforms. Why should I pay to wear my company's uniform? If company wants me to dress a certain way, they can pay. Either buy the clothes or pay me more. Otherwise its just shifting their expenses on to their own employees (and interns). I've been working on a new model for employer / employee relations appropriate for the 3rd millennium that I'd like to share here: Employers pay employees, not the reverse. Feedback welcome.