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Maybe the good people are leaving because you are letting too many bad ones in, aren't getting rid of the bad ones fast enough, or at least getting them out of

Maybe the good people are leaving because you are letting too many bad ones in, aren't getting rid of the bad ones fast enough, or at least getting them out of programming jobs, and generally aren't giving the good ones any differentiated treatment?

sophacles 17y ago
I think the point of the article is this thinking. Really it's not them, its not the crap people being treated with respect (altho that does in fact chafe), its that I get bored. Seriously after a while it stops being a puzzle, its just work. Once I've "solved" it, I lose interest and start getting resentful of being forced to deal with it even more. This is what "its just that time to move again" is about. If a place could provide me with a new challenge, puzzle whatever, I'd stick around, but a lot of places that have good environments are small, and therefore one product shops.
- notaname 17y ago
  >If a place could provide me with a new challenge, puzzle whatever, I'd stick around It's this kind of thinking that I fear is far more prevalent among new hires, and in my opinion is far more damaging. The company shouldn't need to "provide" you with a new challenge -- you should be seeking them out and creating your own challenges.
  - enjo 17y ago
    Exactly. In my experience there is plenty of challenge in virtually every facet of building a product. I've held a job(at single product shop) for more than 5 years. It wasn't like I went to work one day and went 'welp.. everythings done. Lets pack it in!' There was ALWAYS things to do. I guess I get my rocks off by actually accomplishing things. That means doing a really good job no matter what challenge I'm dealing with. There are a lot of challenges in software development. I think too often folks are looking for glamorous problems to solve. It's more about ego than anything else.

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Maybe the good people are leaving because you are letting too many bad ones in, aren't getting rid of the bad ones fast enough, or at least getting them out of

by mattmcknight 17y ago

sophacles 17y ago
I think the point of the article is this thinking. Really it's not them, its not the crap people being treated with respect (altho that does in fact chafe), its that I get bored. Seriously after a while it stops being a puzzle, its just work. Once I've "solved" it, I lose interest and start getting resentful of being forced to deal with it even more. This is what "its just that time to move again" is about. If a place could provide me with a new challenge, puzzle whatever, I'd stick around, but a lot of places that have good environments are small, and therefore one product shops.
- notaname 17y ago
  >If a place could provide me with a new challenge, puzzle whatever, I'd stick around It's this kind of thinking that I fear is far more prevalent among new hires, and in my opinion is far more damaging. The company shouldn't need to "provide" you with a new challenge -- you should be seeking them out and creating your own challenges.
  - enjo 17y ago
    Exactly. In my experience there is plenty of challenge in virtually every facet of building a product. I've held a job(at single product shop) for more than 5 years. It wasn't like I went to work one day and went 'welp.. everythings done. Lets pack it in!' There was ALWAYS things to do. I guess I get my rocks off by actually accomplishing things. That means doing a really good job no matter what challenge I'm dealing with. There are a lot of challenges in software development. I think too often folks are looking for glamorous problems to solve. It's more about ego than anything else.