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> This meme needs to die ... The cognitive bias is so painfully blatant: "the guy I disagree with is a liar bullshitting idiots, or is an idiot himself"? Come o

> This meme needs to die ... The cognitive bias is so painfully blatant: "the guy I disagree with is a liar bullshitting idiots, or is an idiot himself"? Come on. Cognitive bias? Why restate the assertion with loaded terms? Are you saying that it is not intellectually dishonest to equate copyright infringement with theft? Theft deprives its victim of property.

chrischen 17y ago
He's saying the laws we agreed on treat physical property and intellectual property the same, and so to Murdoch there's no need to regard the differences.
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- Nwallins 17y ago
  > He's saying the laws we agreed on treat physical property and intellectual property the same Well this seems incorrect on its face. e.g. Copyright law To my knowledge, copyright does not even address physical property. Thus it does not treat physical property the same as intellectual property.
andreyf 17y ago
Cognitive bias? Why restate the assertion with loaded terms? The bias is the desire to demonize someone perceived as an adversary as a liar and an idiot, even if it isn't an accurate model of their behavior. Demonizing someone is nice if you want to start a lynching mob, but not if you want to understand their point of view. Are you saying that it is not intellectually dishonest to equate copyright infringement with theft? Precisely. Just as it isn't "intellectually dishonest" to equate a dolphin with a fish, from the point of view of an guy in a boat with a spear. Theft deprives its victim of property. Technical detail. Murdoch is investing billions of dollars into what he sees as a "factory manufacturing IP". To him, the output of that factory is his property. Think of it as a magic chicken machine - if you have a machine that makes chickens out of nothing, does that justify stealing chickens from you? After all, you can make more copies of at no cost.

chrischen 17y ago

He's saying the laws we agreed on treat physical property and intellectual property the same, and so to Murdoch there's no need to regard the differences.

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Nwallins 17y ago
> He's saying the laws we agreed on treat physical property and intellectual property the same Well this seems incorrect on its face. e.g. Copyright law To my knowledge, copyright does not even address physical property. Thus it does not treat physical property the same as intellectual property.

andreyf 17y ago

Cognitive bias? Why restate the assertion with loaded terms? The bias is the desire to demonize someone perceived as an adversary as a liar and an idiot, even if it isn't an accurate model of their behavior. Demonizing someone is nice if you want to start a lynching mob, but not if you want to understand their point of view. Are you saying that it is not intellectually dishonest to equate copyright infringement with theft? Precisely. Just as it isn't "intellectually dishonest" to equate a dolphin with a fish, from the point of view of an guy in a boat with a spear. Theft deprives its victim of property. Technical detail. Murdoch is investing billions of dollars into what he sees as a "factory manufacturing IP". To him, the output of that factory is his property. Think of it as a magic chicken machine - if you have a machine that makes chickens out of nothing, does that justify stealing chickens from you? After all, you can make more copies of at no cost.