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A Gooxit would be in order. From time to time I wonder why the EU accepts foreign companies stealing so much personal data. China did the right thing. We shoul

A Gooxit would be in order. From time to time I wonder why the EU accepts foreign companies stealing so much personal data. China did the right thing. We should learn from them. India, afaik, also has better protection.

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toyg 10y ago
Classic example of the difference between nation-states and macro-powers btw. Should an individual market, even a rich one like the UK, complain about this and that, Google would shrug. But when it's the whole of the EU talking, they better listen.
k-mcgrady 10y ago
>> From time to time I wonder why the EU accepts foreign companies stealing so much personal data. Isn't the EU trying to fix this by tearing up safe harbour and instituting new legislation?
djsumdog 10y ago
I moved my e-mail off Google a few years ago after the PRISM leaks (which the world seems to have collectively forgotten about), but it's not easy. I've posted an article before on my struggles with running my own e-mail server and my messages going straight to spam (even with valid DMARC, DKIM and SPF records). I have a lot of friends internationally and I feel I can't exit FB, Google Hangouts, etc. The idea of federated social networking never really made it. :(
- jiqiren 10y ago
  Use WhatsApp. At least they only have metadata and not the content of all your messages.
- quickben 10y ago
  Would you mind posting a link to your article? I'd like to read it.
- chrismartin 10y ago
  Don't give up with your email server! Slowly, more and more of my messages have made it to Gmail users' inboxes (rather than spam folders) over the past few months.
tdkl 10y ago
This is a thing that I wish EU would "grow some" and step together instead of catering to (usually) US services/corporations.
wstrange 10y ago
> China did the right thing I don't think China did the right thing. Their citizens were almost certainly better off with Google holding their meta-data and private email communications.

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toyg 10y ago

Classic example of the difference between nation-states and macro-powers btw. Should an individual market, even a rich one like the UK, complain about this and that, Google would shrug. But when it's the whole of the EU talking, they better listen.

k-mcgrady 10y ago

>> From time to time I wonder why the EU accepts foreign companies stealing so much personal data. Isn't the EU trying to fix this by tearing up safe harbour and instituting new legislation?

djsumdog 10y ago

I moved my e-mail off Google a few years ago after the PRISM leaks (which the world seems to have collectively forgotten about), but it's not easy. I've posted an article before on my struggles with running my own e-mail server and my messages going straight to spam (even with valid DMARC, DKIM and SPF records). I have a lot of friends internationally and I feel I can't exit FB, Google Hangouts, etc. The idea of federated social networking never really made it. :(

jiqiren 10y ago
Use WhatsApp. At least they only have metadata and not the content of all your messages.
quickben 10y ago
Would you mind posting a link to your article? I'd like to read it.
chrismartin 10y ago
Don't give up with your email server! Slowly, more and more of my messages have made it to Gmail users' inboxes (rather than spam folders) over the past few months.

tdkl 10y ago

This is a thing that I wish EU would "grow some" and step together instead of catering to (usually) US services/corporations.

wstrange 10y ago

> China did the right thing I don't think China did the right thing. Their citizens were almost certainly better off with Google holding their meta-data and private email communications.