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Do you have an ETA for when the Windows version might be available for us to try?

by po1nter 10y ago

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stshine 10y ago
The Windows version is not availiable because mozjs the JavaScript engine, Or say, SpiderMonkey, fails to compile on windows currently, and servo developers can not know when it will be fixed. Once it can be build on windows, windows version may come out soon.
- metajack 10y ago
  This is not true. Servo and Spidermonkey compile fine on windows using the mingw toolchain. For the MSVC toolchain we don't have that fully working, but obviously Spidermonkey is not the problem there since the official Firefox builds use MSVC. Mostly we have to fix the build glue. The Windows port didn't ship yesterday because of technical glitches post-install. Servo works fine, but after installation it had some strange behavior we couldn't track down in time. It should come in a few days.
lisivka 10y ago
Why not to try Linux? It's free. It's made by developers and for developers. Try Fedora Linux.
- Aldo_MX 10y ago
  > It's made by system developers and for people comfortable with debugging low level issues like kernel panics caused by faulty drivers. Fixed that for you :P PS. It is considered bad etiquette to ignore the issues of a Windows user and simply "recommend Linux" in a tech community like this, especially when a Windows build has already been promised. You don't know the reasons why someone is using Windows (ex. because of a policy of their employer).
  - lisivka 10y ago
    I sorry to inform you, but Windows is considered harmful, so this is good etiquette now, also known as "word of mouth". You can download and run Linux in fraction of time you will need to argue that this is bad for a user. Download Linux. Download Servo. Run Linux. Run Servo. Profit.
    - MichaelGG 10y ago
      Yeah I wish Linux desktop was that great. I run Xubuntu for dev work (Rust actually). Even really trivial things, like making the edges of the windows easy to grab to resize -- they get totally wrong: the target area is 1px or so. (Yes I know, Alt+Right click is an option, and I should really just use XMonad.) I go search for this issue. Sure enough, many years ago people were talking about this issue, and it's just one excuse after another. Never resolved; maybe it's a theme issue (with all in-box themes), maybe it should be solved somewhere else. Whatever. End result, out of box, it's difficult to resize a bloody window. I think that sums it up pretty well. I've less and less love for MS (though Visual Studio...), but even with having to install crappy hacks to fix Win8, it's _still_ a smoother end-user experience than Linux desktop. With Win10's Linux layer, assuming there's an accelerated X server for Windows, I can't think I'll keep even a VM around much. (If I can turn off Win10's spyware.)
      - lisivka 10y ago
        So why you need alpha version of Servo if IE will provide smoother experience for you anyway?
      - Aldo_MX 10y ago
        The Linux philosophy is to do one thing, and do it well, this is why they get impeccable codebases, but bad UI/UX design. Jokes aside, I stopped fighting desktop environments and embraced Ubuntu's Unity some years ago, at the end I learned to appreciate it and nowadays I feel more comfortable with Ubuntu than with OS X. I still prefer Windows over Ubuntu, but because I have added several utilities to my workflow like Everything Search Engine or WinSplit Revolution (now defunct), not because of Windows' own merits. I just wish there could be a way to have OS X's hotkeys in Windows, since CMD + <anything> is more comfortable to press than Ctrl + <anything>. I also miss having the behavior CMD + Tab / CMD + ` and the ubiquity of CMD + ,
- po1nter 10y ago
  Thanks for the suggestion but I'm already using Linux where it makes sense for me (my website, Gitlab instance, etc). I asked about the Windows version since that's what I'm using most of the time being a .Net dev.
  - lisivka 10y ago
    I can sell you few additional copies of Linux, so you will be able to run Servo right now.
- lisivka 10y ago
  If a hacker will write something about hacking on Hacker News, he will receive lot of downvotes. True story.

Do you have an ETA for when the Windows version might be available for us to try?

by po1nter 10y ago

Do you have an ETA for when the Windows version might be available for us to try?

deleted 10y ago

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stshine 10y ago

The Windows version is not availiable because mozjs the JavaScript engine, Or say, SpiderMonkey, fails to compile on windows currently, and servo developers can not know when it will be fixed. Once it can be build on windows, windows version may come out soon.

metajack 10y ago
This is not true. Servo and Spidermonkey compile fine on windows using the mingw toolchain. For the MSVC toolchain we don't have that fully working, but obviously Spidermonkey is not the problem there since the official Firefox builds use MSVC. Mostly we have to fix the build glue. The Windows port didn't ship yesterday because of technical glitches post-install. Servo works fine, but after installation it had some strange behavior we couldn't track down in time. It should come in a few days.

lisivka 10y ago

Why not to try Linux? It's free. It's made by developers and for developers. Try Fedora Linux.

Aldo_MX 10y ago
> It's made by system developers and for people comfortable with debugging low level issues like kernel panics caused by faulty drivers. Fixed that for you :P PS. It is considered bad etiquette to ignore the issues of a Windows user and simply "recommend Linux" in a tech community like this, especially when a Windows build has already been promised. You don't know the reasons why someone is using Windows (ex. because of a policy of their employer).
- lisivka 10y ago
  I sorry to inform you, but Windows is considered harmful, so this is good etiquette now, also known as "word of mouth". You can download and run Linux in fraction of time you will need to argue that this is bad for a user. Download Linux. Download Servo. Run Linux. Run Servo. Profit.
  - MichaelGG 10y ago
    Yeah I wish Linux desktop was that great. I run Xubuntu for dev work (Rust actually). Even really trivial things, like making the edges of the windows easy to grab to resize -- they get totally wrong: the target area is 1px or so. (Yes I know, Alt+Right click is an option, and I should really just use XMonad.) I go search for this issue. Sure enough, many years ago people were talking about this issue, and it's just one excuse after another. Never resolved; maybe it's a theme issue (with all in-box themes), maybe it should be solved somewhere else. Whatever. End result, out of box, it's difficult to resize a bloody window. I think that sums it up pretty well. I've less and less love for MS (though Visual Studio...), but even with having to install crappy hacks to fix Win8, it's _still_ a smoother end-user experience than Linux desktop. With Win10's Linux layer, assuming there's an accelerated X server for Windows, I can't think I'll keep even a VM around much. (If I can turn off Win10's spyware.)
    - lisivka 10y ago
      So why you need alpha version of Servo if IE will provide smoother experience for you anyway?
    - Aldo_MX 10y ago
      The Linux philosophy is to do one thing, and do it well, this is why they get impeccable codebases, but bad UI/UX design. Jokes aside, I stopped fighting desktop environments and embraced Ubuntu's Unity some years ago, at the end I learned to appreciate it and nowadays I feel more comfortable with Ubuntu than with OS X. I still prefer Windows over Ubuntu, but because I have added several utilities to my workflow like Everything Search Engine or WinSplit Revolution (now defunct), not because of Windows' own merits. I just wish there could be a way to have OS X's hotkeys in Windows, since CMD + <anything> is more comfortable to press than Ctrl + <anything>. I also miss having the behavior CMD + Tab / CMD + ` and the ubiquity of CMD + ,
po1nter 10y ago
Thanks for the suggestion but I'm already using Linux where it makes sense for me (my website, Gitlab instance, etc). I asked about the Windows version since that's what I'm using most of the time being a .Net dev.
- lisivka 10y ago
  I can sell you few additional copies of Linux, so you will be able to run Servo right now.
lisivka 10y ago
If a hacker will write something about hacking on Hacker News, he will receive lot of downvotes. True story.