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That's probably very easy to say before you have a product on the market. Let's see if they change their tune afterwards. I also wonder if that would encourage

That's probably very easy to say before you have a product on the market. Let's see if they change their tune afterwards. I also wonder if that would encourage more risky behaviour from users or less.

semi-extrinsic 10y ago
Have you seen a 2016 Mercedes E-class? It has autonomous systems on essentially the same level as a Tesla, just without the flashy "Autopilot" branding. The new S-class coming out next year is going to have a lot more autonomous features on top of that, including Lidar (which Tesla lacks).
- cynix 10y ago
  > on essentially the same level as a Tesla Actually, it appears to be nowhere near the level of a Tesla. http://mashable.com/2016/06/16/2017-mercedes-benz-e-class-first-drive/ http://mashable.com/2016/06/16/2017-mercedes-benz-e-class-fi...
  - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
    From the article you linked: > Turns out, the 2017 E-Class is just playing coy when it comes to self-driving capabilities. It is the first production car to receive an autonomous driving license in Nevada. So the technical system (hardware+software) is as good as or better than a Model S, but Mercedes believe it is irresponsible to call that Autopilot and pretend like the car is fully autonomous, so they've put in restrictions like requiring some tiny driver input once every 60 seconds so it knows you're paying attention.
- henrikschroder 10y ago
  I think you mean the 2017 E-class, they just started appearing at dealers in CA, and I'm excited to go test-drive one and see how much better it is than my 2014 E-class. That said, it's my understanding that DISTRONIC still disengages if you take your hands off the wheel for more than a short amount of time, same as the 2014 model, and I haven't seen Mercedes make any announcement that the 2017 model will be so good that they're gonna assume liability for accidents. All bark, no bite. It's great that there's competition in the autonomous tech, but I'm very skeptical of either Mercedes or Volvo standing behind that promise any time soon now.

semi-extrinsic 10y ago

Have you seen a 2016 Mercedes E-class? It has autonomous systems on essentially the same level as a Tesla, just without the flashy "Autopilot" branding. The new S-class coming out next year is going to have a lot more autonomous features on top of that, including Lidar (which Tesla lacks).

cynix 10y ago
> on essentially the same level as a Tesla Actually, it appears to be nowhere near the level of a Tesla. http://mashable.com/2016/06/16/2017-mercedes-benz-e-class-first-drive/ http://mashable.com/2016/06/16/2017-mercedes-benz-e-class-fi...
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago
  From the article you linked: > Turns out, the 2017 E-Class is just playing coy when it comes to self-driving capabilities. It is the first production car to receive an autonomous driving license in Nevada. So the technical system (hardware+software) is as good as or better than a Model S, but Mercedes believe it is irresponsible to call that Autopilot and pretend like the car is fully autonomous, so they've put in restrictions like requiring some tiny driver input once every 60 seconds so it knows you're paying attention.
henrikschroder 10y ago
I think you mean the 2017 E-class, they just started appearing at dealers in CA, and I'm excited to go test-drive one and see how much better it is than my 2014 E-class. That said, it's my understanding that DISTRONIC still disengages if you take your hands off the wheel for more than a short amount of time, same as the 2014 model, and I haven't seen Mercedes make any announcement that the 2017 model will be so good that they're gonna assume liability for accidents. All bark, no bite. It's great that there's competition in the autonomous tech, but I'm very skeptical of either Mercedes or Volvo standing behind that promise any time soon now.