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This is infuriating. Have you seen the infanticide statistics in the US? About 450/year. That is per year, btw. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201

This is infuriating. Have you seen the infanticide statistics in the US? About 450/year. That is per year, btw. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/10/parents-kill-children-fbi-data/15280259/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/10/parents... One of the top reasons? "A parent acting out of revenge against a spouse or partner." Yet, you didn't express any concern that the Ashley Madison leak is going to lead to a spate of child murders. Honor killings are like that: rare, perverse, unrepresentative.

mikeash 10y ago
Very interesting and I'm glad you brought that up. I'm curious, though, in which way does this infuriate you? Are you infuriated that people are unaware of the potential infanticide in the AM case? Or are you infuriated that people are aware of the potential for death in this case? The former I can totally understand, but I'm guessing it's the latter and that seems like misdirected rage to me.
- projectramo 10y ago
  I am infuriated that people think that crime in Muslim countries represents Muslims, but crime in other countries represents criminals.
  - mikeash 10y ago
    I don't see anyone here saying that this represents all Muslims. There is a difference between stereotyping an entire group based on the actions of a few, and merely acknowledging the actions of a few. The fact that some Muslims practice honor killings is just reality, same as the fact that some Christians murder gay people or drive them to suicide. Pointing out that some may suffer due to the actions of those few does not in any way imply that the whole group is in any way represented or complicit.
    - projectramo 10y ago
      Well, to give an example, I didn't see people worried that Madison Ashley leaks would lead to people murdering their spouses and children, even though that happens in these cases. How come no one took some time to point that out?

mikeash 10y ago

Very interesting and I'm glad you brought that up. I'm curious, though, in which way does this infuriate you? Are you infuriated that people are unaware of the potential infanticide in the AM case? Or are you infuriated that people are aware of the potential for death in this case? The former I can totally understand, but I'm guessing it's the latter and that seems like misdirected rage to me.

projectramo 10y ago
I am infuriated that people think that crime in Muslim countries represents Muslims, but crime in other countries represents criminals.
- mikeash 10y ago
  I don't see anyone here saying that this represents all Muslims. There is a difference between stereotyping an entire group based on the actions of a few, and merely acknowledging the actions of a few. The fact that some Muslims practice honor killings is just reality, same as the fact that some Christians murder gay people or drive them to suicide. Pointing out that some may suffer due to the actions of those few does not in any way imply that the whole group is in any way represented or complicit.
  - projectramo 10y ago
    Well, to give an example, I didn't see people worried that Madison Ashley leaks would lead to people murdering their spouses and children, even though that happens in these cases. How come no one took some time to point that out?