Debating the notion of who is a "hacker of the highest level" would be a silly waste of time and is totally subjective and unquantifiable. Are important or hig

Debating the notion of who is a "hacker of the highest level" would be a silly waste of time and is totally subjective and unquantifiable. Are important or highly talented programmers/engineers hackers (not this again)? Is someone who writes clever exploits but doesn't break into networks a hacker? What about a great social engineer with limited technical skills? Or cryptologists? In some of these categories the better you are the fewer people know you exist? The very fact Juice2.0 brings it up reflects poorly on them (assuming this post isn't just disinformation which it could very well be).