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Why do you expect anything else from him than just stating his own opinion? Mine is roughly the same btw, for as much as I care.

chasing 10y ago
> just stating his own opinion Yup. I'm just judging his opinion with my own opinion. Which is that he (and you) are wildly misreading those candidates if that's what you really believe about them.
smacktoward 10y ago
He's allowed to state his own opinion every bit as much as others are allowed to state their opinions that his is stupid.
tomp 10y ago
Just to clear some facts... Trump inherited lots of money, some people argue that he barely made more than he would investing his inheritance in an index fund. In addition, he frequently changes his opinion and is pretty much the opposite of "straight and clear", except of course for a few themes that he constantly champions ("ban Muslims", "build the wall", and a very underspecified "make American great again"), but e.g. he can't even make up his mind on how much the wall will cost. (Don't take this comment as an endorsment of Hillary, she's most likely a liar and deplorable in so many ways, in addition her positions are very maleable, but make no mistake, Trump is no better. It really is a choice between a disaster and a catastrophe.)
- leesalminen 10y ago
  > Trump inherited lots of money Do you have a source for that? My understanding was that he received a $1MM loan from his Father after graduating business school.
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    and then inherited 100's of M when his father died.
  - tomp 10y ago
    No. Do you? As I said, it's a contentious issue, plagued by bad data and deliberate misinformation. I doubt anyone knows the facts, not even Trump himself. But, Googling e.g. "trump wealth" brings up a few articles that discuss the source (and evolution) of his wealth.
    - leesalminen 10y ago
      That's the only point I was trying to make. There is a lot of misinformation flying around on both sides and it's useful to know where the information came from so one can determine its veracity.
  - mikeyouse 10y ago
    His dad was worth ~$250M at the time of his death... Given the family dynamics, I'm assuming he didn't bequeath that wealth to charity. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/29/the-myth-and-the-reality-of-donald-trumps-business-empire/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/29/the-m... Aside from the cash loans, he was made an executive in his father's real estate firm which owned a bunch of buildings in Manhattan. His father would further help prevent his businesses from going bankrupt by illegally propping up Trump's NJ casino with a $3.5M gift in the 1990s: http://articles.philly.com/1991-04-09/news/25780577_1_casino-control-act-donald-trump-casino-owners http://articles.philly.com/1991-04-09/news/25780577_1_casino...
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- tanderson92 10y ago
  > Trump inherited lots of money, some people argue that he barely made more than he would investing his inheritance in an index fund. True, but like all businesses in the economy his company has the distinction of actually participating in economic ventures to create wealth. Owning shares in the S&P500 isn't creating anything. To me that's a clear difference that isn't considered enough. And let's not forget that most mutual funds themselves don't beat the S&P500, so a lot of investors don't even capture those returns.

chasing 10y ago

> just stating his own opinion Yup. I'm just judging his opinion with my own opinion. Which is that he (and you) are wildly misreading those candidates if that's what you really believe about them.

smacktoward 10y ago

He's allowed to state his own opinion every bit as much as others are allowed to state their opinions that his is stupid.

tomp 10y ago

Just to clear some facts... Trump inherited lots of money, some people argue that he barely made more than he would investing his inheritance in an index fund. In addition, he frequently changes his opinion and is pretty much the opposite of "straight and clear", except of course for a few themes that he constantly champions ("ban Muslims", "build the wall", and a very underspecified "make American great again"), but e.g. he can't even make up his mind on how much the wall will cost. (Don't take this comment as an endorsment of Hillary, she's most likely a liar and deplorable in so many ways, in addition her positions are very maleable, but make no mistake, Trump is no better. It really is a choice between a disaster and a catastrophe.)

leesalminen 10y ago
> Trump inherited lots of money Do you have a source for that? My understanding was that he received a $1MM loan from his Father after graduating business school.
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  and then inherited 100's of M when his father died.
- tomp 10y ago
  No. Do you? As I said, it's a contentious issue, plagued by bad data and deliberate misinformation. I doubt anyone knows the facts, not even Trump himself. But, Googling e.g. "trump wealth" brings up a few articles that discuss the source (and evolution) of his wealth.
  - leesalminen 10y ago
    That's the only point I was trying to make. There is a lot of misinformation flying around on both sides and it's useful to know where the information came from so one can determine its veracity.
- mikeyouse 10y ago
  His dad was worth ~$250M at the time of his death... Given the family dynamics, I'm assuming he didn't bequeath that wealth to charity. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/29/the-myth-and-the-reality-of-donald-trumps-business-empire/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/29/the-m... Aside from the cash loans, he was made an executive in his father's real estate firm which owned a bunch of buildings in Manhattan. His father would further help prevent his businesses from going bankrupt by illegally propping up Trump's NJ casino with a $3.5M gift in the 1990s: http://articles.philly.com/1991-04-09/news/25780577_1_casino-control-act-donald-trump-casino-owners http://articles.philly.com/1991-04-09/news/25780577_1_casino...
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tanderson92 10y ago
> Trump inherited lots of money, some people argue that he barely made more than he would investing his inheritance in an index fund. True, but like all businesses in the economy his company has the distinction of actually participating in economic ventures to create wealth. Owning shares in the S&P500 isn't creating anything. To me that's a clear difference that isn't considered enough. And let's not forget that most mutual funds themselves don't beat the S&P500, so a lot of investors don't even capture those returns.