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If a terrorist organization wants secure communications, they will find a way to get them, whether by an app with encryption by default like Telegram or somethi

If a terrorist organization wants secure communications, they will find a way to get them, whether by an app with encryption by default like Telegram or something they make in-house. You can't stop or prevent that unless you intend to do so for everybody on Earth. It has nothing to do with being Muslim.

douche 10y ago
Shit, you could encode a ton of secret communications in imgur with a tiny amount of steganography. There's a lot of junk bits that could be used here and there to store sensitive data in places that would not be looked into. Security through obscurity
nickpsecurity 10y ago
"If a terrorist organization wants secure communications, they will find a way to get them" That's what people keep saying. Yet, remember that outreach has to be convenient, use wide-spread tech, and deal with the kind of idiots who blow themselves up for twisted interpretation of religion. ISIS isn't running exclusively on GPG infrastructure despite Snowden leaks showing it was about all that worked to stop surveillance. Instead, they're all over social media, regular messengers, and so on. Black markets are still mostly on ICQ & email. Recent terrorist had iPhones and burner phones (don't recall brand). So, they can theoretically use nearly impenetrable, pain-in-the-ass stuff but are more likely to use what's convenient and popular. Make ultra-secure stuff convenient and popular for Muslims specifically will likely lead to large uptake among Muslims who are terrorists. It will make you a target for doing so as helping those criminals gets more attention, pressure, and even legal might than most. "It has nothing to do with being Muslim." Sure does. Prior comment and rest of this one assume the non-Muslim government profiles Muslims as terrorists, assumes specific countries with potential users aid terrorism, and/or assumes some Muslim countries will oppose encryption that threatens their rule. So, in Five Eyes and even some Muslim countries, the perception might be that Muslims seeking encryption cops and spies can't break means they're up to no good. That might be a problem for both supplier and any users if a surveillance dragnet exists. Less likely to be the case if they were, say, Arab Buddhists in a 15 person church that doesn't evangelize. No perceived threat there. ;)

douche 10y ago

Shit, you could encode a ton of secret communications in imgur with a tiny amount of steganography. There's a lot of junk bits that could be used here and there to store sensitive data in places that would not be looked into. Security through obscurity

nickpsecurity 10y ago

"If a terrorist organization wants secure communications, they will find a way to get them" That's what people keep saying. Yet, remember that outreach has to be convenient, use wide-spread tech, and deal with the kind of idiots who blow themselves up for twisted interpretation of religion. ISIS isn't running exclusively on GPG infrastructure despite Snowden leaks showing it was about all that worked to stop surveillance. Instead, they're all over social media, regular messengers, and so on. Black markets are still mostly on ICQ & email. Recent terrorist had iPhones and burner phones (don't recall brand). So, they can theoretically use nearly impenetrable, pain-in-the-ass stuff but are more likely to use what's convenient and popular. Make ultra-secure stuff convenient and popular for Muslims specifically will likely lead to large uptake among Muslims who are terrorists. It will make you a target for doing so as helping those criminals gets more attention, pressure, and even legal might than most. "It has nothing to do with being Muslim." Sure does. Prior comment and rest of this one assume the non-Muslim government profiles Muslims as terrorists, assumes specific countries with potential users aid terrorism, and/or assumes some Muslim countries will oppose encryption that threatens their rule. So, in Five Eyes and even some Muslim countries, the perception might be that Muslims seeking encryption cops and spies can't break means they're up to no good. That might be a problem for both supplier and any users if a surveillance dragnet exists. Less likely to be the case if they were, say, Arab Buddhists in a 15 person church that doesn't evangelize. No perceived threat there. ;)