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Another PR stunt of the minister, Montoro. No more than that. He also makes public a lost of debtors to the IRS (which should be illegal but he gets away with a
by pfortuny 10y ago
Another PR stunt of the minister, Montoro. No more than that. He also makes public a lost of debtors to the IRS (which should be illegal but he gets away with anything).
Edit: Spaniard here.
- cocotino 10y ago"should be illegal" means it is not. What exactly is your point? Shaming debtors of the country is not ok?
- tinco 10y agoWell, I suppose anyone who is a debtor to the IRS is a criminal . In The Netherlands it isn't legal to use the full name of a criminal in any publication, so it could be that the EU is a bit different in the way it treats criminals.
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- pfortuny 10y agoYou are innocent until a judge declares you are not. Even in tax evasion. Edit: sorry, I misunderstood your comment...
- ghurtado 10y agoGiven the current climate of corruption, fraud and tax evasion in Spain, there is no problem in my book with publicly shaming offenders and fraudsters, specially when most of them are elite actors or millionaires. The problem is that the names are being made public while they are "under investigation", which destroys the basic right of presumption of innocence, and (more importantly) they are being released by a Minister who belongs to an embattled and corrupt government, so it absolutely smells like the tax ministry is being used as a political weapon.
- pfortuny 10y agoShaming them is not legal because it is defamation and the authority (Montoro) is obliged to denounce it, not to make it public. Let the media make whatever is public, public, but not the minister. He has, several times, menaced the media (for example, "El Mundo", to "speak out about you")... I find that dirty. Edit: And a corruption of justice (presumption of innocence even for fiscal deeds). (See comments above): he is required by Law (since 2003) to make that list public. However he (coincidentally) started publishing it last year (election year...). From my point of view, this is pathetic.
- varjag 10y agoI'm not sure defamation is even applicable to corporate entities across the EU.
- peralta 10y agoIt might be PR, but he's just basically following the law and not breaking it. Spanish IRS (Hacienda) must publish the list of debtors who owe more than €1M by law.
- pfortuny 10y agoYou are right. However, as with everything, he (Montoro) does as he wishes: they started doing this just last year... the Law comes from 2003. Last year we started the cycle of these lists. Last year was... election year! Edit: last year, not two ago.
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