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Marginally cheaper than Twilio for USA: $0.00645 vs. $0.0075 Much more expensive in Europe (e.g. major networks in Poland Twilio $0.03467, AWS $0.03897 - 0.077

Marginally cheaper than Twilio for USA: $0.00645 vs. $0.0075 Much more expensive in Europe (e.g. major networks in Poland Twilio $0.03467, AWS $0.03897 - 0.07711) https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing http://aws.amazon.com/sns/sms-pricing/ http://aws.amazon.com/sns/sms-pricing/

anthony_barker 10y ago
Clickatell is compatible to twillio and they have a nice validation api https://www.clickatell.com/detailed-pricing-and-coverage/ https://www.clickatell.com/detailed-pricing-and-coverage/
- sethd 10y ago
  I don't think they are comparable at all, their pricing model is very archaic compared to Twilio.
sologoub 10y ago
Plivo seems to be substantially cheaper for US long codes at $0.0035: https://www.plivo.com/pricing/#!sms https://www.plivo.com/pricing/#!sms. Poland is also cheaper at $0.022. EDIT: Interestingly, Twilio seems to be cheaper on the phone number pricing slightly in Poland and substantially in Germany and France.
vxxzy 10y ago
They can't beat QuestBlue. Their SMS is Free with the purchase of DID. Great API also. http://www.questblue.com/rates.html http://www.questblue.com/rates.html
- shimon_e 10y ago
  Is this real sms or smtp sms?
jonknee 10y ago
Considering that Twilio hosts with AWS, that will be a tough price war for Twilio to win.
- dforrestwilson 10y ago
  Can we contrast the aggressive Amazon platform vs customer dynamic with other cloud providers? Why would a new company opt for Amazon at the risk of being copied and competed with as we're seeing with Netflix, Twilio, and numerous Amazon store vendors? Why not go with Google or Microsoft?
  - eldavido 10y ago
    Think like a customer. Netflix has a lot of customers, IMO because they developed great recommendation IP, they have a large content library, and have invested heavily into customer acquisition and marketing to build a consumer brand. Netflix will use AWS infrastructure if it benefits their business and go elsewhere if it doesn't. The fact that the two companies compete in some ways is pretty much irrelevant to Netflix's (operational) decision of hosting provider.
  - jonknee 10y ago
    Because it works? Apple still spends billions buying parts from Samsung, even while locked in a patent infringement lawsuit.
  - shostack 10y ago
    I wonder if/how AWS data might be used to inform decisions Amazon makes about breaking into other markets.
- eldavido 10y ago
  Twilio's cost structure is probably dominated by SMS charges from telco operators and customer acquisition, not their AWS bill. So I doubt it, but feel free to cite data that shows I'm wrong. (I read their s-1 and I don't think it got into that granularity of cost accounting)
Nazzareno 10y ago
They need to fix many things, it doesn't seem they have a good knowledge and experience on the sms messaging world. 1) have a specific price for every single network makes it impossible to calculate which will be the final real cost for each country 2) it's crazy expensive outside the US. Every player in the SMS industry is 4x lower on average. IE: http://www.mailup.com/pricing/sms/ http://www.mailup.com/pricing/sms/ 3) they don't support text as a sender. In many countries you can have "MyCompany" as a sender instead of a generic number or short code. This makes the communication much more effective. 4) They claim the pricing will be different for transactional & marketing traffic, but it's not clear how , they just provide one only price list. 5) first 100 messages to US numbers free (each month). I expect they will be soon abused and they will retire this offering. 6) they don't support 2-way communication 7) SMS prices usually go down when volumes increase
- slig 10y ago
  > 3) they don't support text as a sender. In many countries you can have "MyCompany" as a sender instead of a generic number or short code. This makes the communication much more effective. They do support it in some countries [1]: > AWS.SNS.SMS.SenderID > A custom ID that contains up to 11 alphanumeric characters, including at least one letter and no spaces. The sender ID is displayed as the message sender on the receiving device. For example, you can use your business brand to make the message source easier to recognize. > Support for sender IDs varies by country. For example, messages delivered to U.S. phone numbers will not display the sender ID. > If you do not specify a sender ID, the message will display a long code as the sender ID in supported countries. For countries that require an alphabetic sender ID, the message displays NOTICE as the sender ID. [1]: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/sns/latest/dg/sms_publish-to-phone.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/sns/latest/dg/sms_publish-to-phon...

anthony_barker 10y ago

Clickatell is compatible to twillio and they have a nice validation api https://www.clickatell.com/detailed-pricing-and-coverage/ https://www.clickatell.com/detailed-pricing-and-coverage/

sethd 10y ago
I don't think they are comparable at all, their pricing model is very archaic compared to Twilio.

sologoub 10y ago

Plivo seems to be substantially cheaper for US long codes at $0.0035: https://www.plivo.com/pricing/#!sms https://www.plivo.com/pricing/#!sms. Poland is also cheaper at $0.022. EDIT: Interestingly, Twilio seems to be cheaper on the phone number pricing slightly in Poland and substantially in Germany and France.

vxxzy 10y ago

They can't beat QuestBlue. Their SMS is Free with the purchase of DID. Great API also. http://www.questblue.com/rates.html http://www.questblue.com/rates.html

shimon_e 10y ago
Is this real sms or smtp sms?

jonknee 10y ago

Considering that Twilio hosts with AWS, that will be a tough price war for Twilio to win.

dforrestwilson 10y ago
Can we contrast the aggressive Amazon platform vs customer dynamic with other cloud providers? Why would a new company opt for Amazon at the risk of being copied and competed with as we're seeing with Netflix, Twilio, and numerous Amazon store vendors? Why not go with Google or Microsoft?
- eldavido 10y ago
  Think like a customer. Netflix has a lot of customers, IMO because they developed great recommendation IP, they have a large content library, and have invested heavily into customer acquisition and marketing to build a consumer brand. Netflix will use AWS infrastructure if it benefits their business and go elsewhere if it doesn't. The fact that the two companies compete in some ways is pretty much irrelevant to Netflix's (operational) decision of hosting provider.
- jonknee 10y ago
  Because it works? Apple still spends billions buying parts from Samsung, even while locked in a patent infringement lawsuit.
- shostack 10y ago
  I wonder if/how AWS data might be used to inform decisions Amazon makes about breaking into other markets.
eldavido 10y ago
Twilio's cost structure is probably dominated by SMS charges from telco operators and customer acquisition, not their AWS bill. So I doubt it, but feel free to cite data that shows I'm wrong. (I read their s-1 and I don't think it got into that granularity of cost accounting)

Nazzareno 10y ago

They need to fix many things, it doesn't seem they have a good knowledge and experience on the sms messaging world. 1) have a specific price for every single network makes it impossible to calculate which will be the final real cost for each country 2) it's crazy expensive outside the US. Every player in the SMS industry is 4x lower on average. IE: http://www.mailup.com/pricing/sms/ http://www.mailup.com/pricing/sms/ 3) they don't support text as a sender. In many countries you can have "MyCompany" as a sender instead of a generic number or short code. This makes the communication much more effective. 4) They claim the pricing will be different for transactional & marketing traffic, but it's not clear how , they just provide one only price list. 5) first 100 messages to US numbers free (each month). I expect they will be soon abused and they will retire this offering. 6) they don't support 2-way communication 7) SMS prices usually go down when volumes increase

slig 10y ago
> 3) they don't support text as a sender. In many countries you can have "MyCompany" as a sender instead of a generic number or short code. This makes the communication much more effective. They do support it in some countries [1]: > AWS.SNS.SMS.SenderID > A custom ID that contains up to 11 alphanumeric characters, including at least one letter and no spaces. The sender ID is displayed as the message sender on the receiving device. For example, you can use your business brand to make the message source easier to recognize. > Support for sender IDs varies by country. For example, messages delivered to U.S. phone numbers will not display the sender ID. > If you do not specify a sender ID, the message will display a long code as the sender ID in supported countries. For countries that require an alphabetic sender ID, the message displays NOTICE as the sender ID. [1]: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/sns/latest/dg/sms_publish-to-phone.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/sns/latest/dg/sms_publish-to-phon...