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> We aren't working in that environment any more. "We" are a minority. The vast majority of websites out there are still hosted on shared servers over which t
by kijin 10y ago
> We aren't working in that environment any more.
"We" are a minority.
The vast majority of websites out there are still hosted on shared servers over which the customer has very little control other than installing and updating WordPress. You might be able to convince cPanel to let you run a Rails app, but the system as a whole was designed with PHP in mind.
The owners of those websites have absolutely zero interest in messing with the server environment. They're not developers. They've probably never heard of devops. They're totally allergic to SSH and can barely even use FTP. And yet, these are the people who, whether knowingly or not, help keep the web as decentralized as it is. PHP was the only language that catered to them 15 years ago, and it still is the only language that makes this possible on a large scale.
I host my blog with NearlyFreeSpeech.net. The whole site is just a couple of PHP scripts. I haven't updated it in almost a year, but it keeps working, no maintenance required. If I had to host it on DigitalOcean like all the cool kids do, it would cost me 10x more in monthly fees (even with the smallest droplet) and 100x more in time. This kind of setup is what I call "It just works." Not dockerfiles and bootstrapping commands and all sorts of dependency management tools.
- epimetheus 10y ago>10x more in monthly fees The smallest droplet is 5 dollars a month, do you pay 50 cents a month for your shared hosting? >100x more in time Have you even looked into DO or are you just making assumptions? You can create a ton of apps with one click (One-click apps) and install a full stack with WordPress, Drupal, Django, and much, much more, and it just works. If anything, it's the same amount of effort as some cPanel shared hosting.
- kijin 10y ago> The smallest droplet is 5 dollars a month, do you pay 50 cents a month for your shared hosting? Yes. > Have you even looked into DO or are you just making assumptions? You can create a ton of apps with one click (One-click apps) and install a full stack with WordPress, Drupal, Django, and much, much more, and it just works. My company manages servers for non-technical people whose small business or hobby websites have outgrown shared hosting. I often get clients who found out a little too late that running a Linux machine securely and efficiently is much more complicated than deploying a one-click app on DigitalOcean (or a similar service). I sweep in, optimize the hell out of everything, and occasionally patch some gaping security holes. So no, it doesn't "just work". At least not in the long term.