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Ah, nice. So you have an actual certificate which states that you are very good at remembering useless details from a programming language manual? I always fla

• thinkt4nk 10y ago
  grumble grumble standardized tests
• mgkimsal 10y ago
  Did you ever take the test? There wasn't all that much about 'remembering useless details from a manual' in it. I've taken the cert twice (5.x and 5.3 IIRC) and in neither case was there much in the way of 'manual trivia'. Far more were scanning a piece of code and being able to determine what the outcome was (error? if so, which one? if not, what's the output?) than haystack/needle issues.
• cm3 10y ago
  Funny you say that. In some other programming community, when one of the consultancy shops was questioning the community what they think of certifications, they were surprised to read that I was one of a few who said certifications are useless and especially so in programming. What it also reminds me of is one job interview where instead of the scheduled pair programming session I had to program my 3rd (IIRC) working program for them to show again that I can code something from scratch. In that case I didn't recall all the pieces of the framework/api from memory, and having to consult a reference book made me fail the test. If a certificate of Foo API Expert would have saved me that failure, then maybe it's worth something, but other than that a certificate says nothing about a developer.
• BilalBudhani 10y ago
  You can say that. But, then I was introduced to real programming. :)