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That's fine until 4chan starts distributing images telling people to run this cool command to speed up their computer or something stupid. Ala delete system 32.

That's fine until 4chan starts distributing images telling people to run this cool command to speed up their computer or something stupid. Ala delete system 32. They will have to lock this down like they did with system 32. Users do need to be protected from their own stupidity.

Zardoz84 10y ago
Man, you remember how do a TriForce?
userbinator 10y ago
Users do need to be protected from their own stupidity. I think they definitely don't; instead, they need to learn from it. Mollycoddling them will only encourage such stupidity and help it proliferate. If taking a few seconds to search online for more information is beyond their ability, then they deserve everything that happens to them.
- Houshalter 10y ago
  Look see my above comment. There's no need to downvote me, I'm just making a prediction based on a very similar situation that happened in the past exactly the way I describe. Whether or not users "need" to be protected from stupidity is an opinion of course. But it's in Microsoft's interest to protect their users, and users want to be protected. So who is to say they are wrong to do so? I find your assertion that the world would be a better place if more people made serious mistakes, really hard to believe. A 10 year old ruining his parents computer might teach him a lesson. But how much does he gain from that lesson, really? And at what cost? Would you personally help distribute malicious advice memes, if you really believe this is a good thing?
JoshTriplett 10y ago
Running a random shell command from the Internet without understanding it can do any number of terrible things; removing all your files and making your system unbootable is not the worst that could happen. --no-preserve-root seems like a sufficient safeguard here.
- Houshalter 10y ago
  I'm just making predictions. That this will become a malicious advice meme. That lots of people will lose all their files over it. And that microsoft will probably disable it. This exact thing happened with system32. And deleting a system file somehow seems much more obviously dangerous than entering a command you don't understand. "rm" looks pretty harmless, and someone could come up with a backronym that even makes it seem sensible. In fact I wonder if this is the reason pasting into console is disabled, or at least hard to figure out, on Windows.
  - mafuy 10y ago
    Why do you think this is the reason system32 was protected? I think it was simply protected for the same reason the program files folder was, which is security. Not to prevent user mistakes.
    - Houshalter 10y ago
      No, deleting system files was only disabled on the user interface. You could still do it with a bat script or the windows api. They also got rid of deltree, which is the Windows equivalent of rm -rf, and was abused in a similar way.
Oletros 10y ago
If an user has the Linux subsystem installed, that user knows what rm -rf does
- Houshalter 10y ago
  I thought they were planning on making it universal.

Zardoz84 10y ago

Man, you remember how do a TriForce?

userbinator 10y ago

Users do need to be protected from their own stupidity. I think they definitely don't; instead, they need to learn from it. Mollycoddling them will only encourage such stupidity and help it proliferate. If taking a few seconds to search online for more information is beyond their ability, then they deserve everything that happens to them.

Houshalter 10y ago
Look see my above comment. There's no need to downvote me, I'm just making a prediction based on a very similar situation that happened in the past exactly the way I describe. Whether or not users "need" to be protected from stupidity is an opinion of course. But it's in Microsoft's interest to protect their users, and users want to be protected. So who is to say they are wrong to do so? I find your assertion that the world would be a better place if more people made serious mistakes, really hard to believe. A 10 year old ruining his parents computer might teach him a lesson. But how much does he gain from that lesson, really? And at what cost? Would you personally help distribute malicious advice memes, if you really believe this is a good thing?

JoshTriplett 10y ago

Running a random shell command from the Internet without understanding it can do any number of terrible things; removing all your files and making your system unbootable is not the worst that could happen. --no-preserve-root seems like a sufficient safeguard here.

Houshalter 10y ago
I'm just making predictions. That this will become a malicious advice meme. That lots of people will lose all their files over it. And that microsoft will probably disable it. This exact thing happened with system32. And deleting a system file somehow seems much more obviously dangerous than entering a command you don't understand. "rm" looks pretty harmless, and someone could come up with a backronym that even makes it seem sensible. In fact I wonder if this is the reason pasting into console is disabled, or at least hard to figure out, on Windows.
- mafuy 10y ago
  Why do you think this is the reason system32 was protected? I think it was simply protected for the same reason the program files folder was, which is security. Not to prevent user mistakes.
  - Houshalter 10y ago
    No, deleting system files was only disabled on the user interface. You could still do it with a bat script or the windows api. They also got rid of deltree, which is the Windows equivalent of rm -rf, and was abused in a similar way.

Oletros 10y ago

If an user has the Linux subsystem installed, that user knows what rm -rf does

Houshalter 10y ago
I thought they were planning on making it universal.