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False http://203.208.37.99/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tiananmen&lr=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi http://203.208.37.99/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp

by est 17y ago

False http://203.208.37.99/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tiananmen&lr=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi http://203.208.37.99/images?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=tia... Google's global CDN is too complicated for average reporters to write about. There are enormous parameters to tweak if you want to mimic the real google.cn search behavior in China. Also WHY EVERY WESTERNER USE TIANANMEN AS A TESTING KEYWORD? tiananmen maybe famous in the west, but in Chinese it has other definitive meanings. Who the f__k would link a square with a massacre? My theory is Google does not censor Tiananmen. e.g. the Chinese blog http://liblog.blog.163.com/blog/static/53679382200981773143/ http://liblog.blog.163.com/blog/static/53679382200981773143/ It's not because Google censors it, but because there are just very few Chinese blogs or pics named TianAnMen. Tiananmen is just insignificant. During culture revolution people shooting each other with guns even mortar on streets, machine guns were pretty common to guard important facilities. My college even had a f__king cannon installed on the main building. If you really want to test censorship in China, use a real keyword, like this one http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%C4%C9%C3%D7%B1%C8%D1%C7+%BA%FA%BD%F5%CC%CE http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%C4%C9%C3%D7%B1%C8%D1%C7+%BA%FA%BD... http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%E7%BA%B3%E7%B1%B3%E6%AF%94%E4%BA%9A+%E8%83%A1%E9%94%A6%E6%B6%9B http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%E7%BA%B3%E7%B1%B...

smokinn 17y ago
English translation please? I have no idea what that keyword might be.
- chengas123 17y ago
  http://translate.google.com/#zh-CN|en|%E7%BA%B3%E7%B1%B3%E6%AF%94%E4%BA%9A%20%E8%83%A1%E9%94%A6%E6%B6%9B http://translate.google.com/#zh-CN|en|%E7%BA%B3%E7%B1%B3%E6%...
- est 17y ago
  It's about our China president's son got involved in a bribe scandal in Namibia. It's a Lv. 1 keyword
garply 17y ago
I live in China and I don't think it's wrong to use Tian'anmen (at least the Chinese term) as a keyword: http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=天安门广场事件+1989&aq=8&aqi=g1g-z1g8&aql=&oq=天安&gs_rfai= http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=天安门... (Tian'anmen Square incident 1989) That looks quite censored to me (ymmv if you access this from outside the PRC). Like the man standing in front of the tank? I'm sure my girlfriend (who is a native Beijinger) would like to blog about that, but she wouldn't dare. She occasionally tells me about how one of her grade school classmates got hit by a stray bullet and died at Tian'anmen. She lived near the Square and heard the gunfire as a child and her sister's got a drawing she made of the freedom statue that was put up there. I could see all of those things going into blog posts, except they don't put them there because of fear of retribution. So I think there is censorship around the term, and I think it's a valid search query.
- est 17y ago
  > I'm sure my girlfriend (who is a native Beijinger) would like to blog about that, but she wouldn't dare. You see, what I mean is that Google does not really censor this Tiananmen keyword too hard, but it's really there's not many Chinese content about 'tiananmen'. Because people would not write about that particular keyword. The real heavily censored keyword about Tiananmen is this http://203.208.37.99/search?q=%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6 http://203.208.37.99/search?q=%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4%BA%8B%E4... > That looks quite censored to me Try this one http://203.208.37.99/search?q=89%E5%AD%A6%E6%BD%AE http://203.208.37.99/search?q=89%E5%AD%A6%E6%BD%AE Like I said, the domestic Chinese see things from a different angle, because westerners don't see it does not mean it didn't happen or Chinese didn't know.
  - garply 17y ago
    I'm not sure why we're disagreeing. The "6/4 incident" is heavily censored (and I imagine moreso because that's what you guys would use more often to talk about the event), but so is my search term. On the search result pages, there are only like 4 or 5 results per page. Page 6 is totally empty: http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&newwindow=1&q=天安门广场事件+1989&start=50&sa=N http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&newwindow=1&q=天... Page 7 has one entry, etc.
eru 17y ago
Your first link is blocked by my employer. Strange.
hetman 17y ago
Indeed, this search term has been uncensored when searching google.cn from outside of China for some time. I'm surprised it took Tom's Hardware so long to get onto it.

by est 17y ago

smokinn 17y ago

English translation please? I have no idea what that keyword might be.

chengas123 17y ago
http://translate.google.com/#zh-CN|en|%E7%BA%B3%E7%B1%B3%E6%AF%94%E4%BA%9A%20%E8%83%A1%E9%94%A6%E6%B6%9B http://translate.google.com/#zh-CN|en|%E7%BA%B3%E7%B1%B3%E6%...
est 17y ago
It's about our China president's son got involved in a bribe scandal in Namibia. It's a Lv. 1 keyword

garply 17y ago

I live in China and I don't think it's wrong to use Tian'anmen (at least the Chinese term) as a keyword: http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=天安门广场事件+1989&aq=8&aqi=g1g-z1g8&aql=&oq=天安&gs_rfai= http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&source=hp&q=天安门... (Tian'anmen Square incident 1989) That looks quite censored to me (ymmv if you access this from outside the PRC). Like the man standing in front of the tank? I'm sure my girlfriend (who is a native Beijinger) would like to blog about that, but she wouldn't dare. She occasionally tells me about how one of her grade school classmates got hit by a stray bullet and died at Tian'anmen. She lived near the Square and heard the gunfire as a child and her sister's got a drawing she made of the freedom statue that was put up there. I could see all of those things going into blog posts, except they don't put them there because of fear of retribution. So I think there is censorship around the term, and I think it's a valid search query.

est 17y ago
> I'm sure my girlfriend (who is a native Beijinger) would like to blog about that, but she wouldn't dare. You see, what I mean is that Google does not really censor this Tiananmen keyword too hard, but it's really there's not many Chinese content about 'tiananmen'. Because people would not write about that particular keyword. The real heavily censored keyword about Tiananmen is this http://203.208.37.99/search?q=%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6 http://203.208.37.99/search?q=%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4%BA%8B%E4... > That looks quite censored to me Try this one http://203.208.37.99/search?q=89%E5%AD%A6%E6%BD%AE http://203.208.37.99/search?q=89%E5%AD%A6%E6%BD%AE Like I said, the domestic Chinese see things from a different angle, because westerners don't see it does not mean it didn't happen or Chinese didn't know.
- garply 17y ago
  I'm not sure why we're disagreeing. The "6/4 incident" is heavily censored (and I imagine moreso because that's what you guys would use more often to talk about the event), but so is my search term. On the search result pages, there are only like 4 or 5 results per page. Page 6 is totally empty: http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&newwindow=1&q=天安门广场事件+1989&start=50&sa=N http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&newwindow=1&q=天... Page 7 has one entry, etc.

eru 17y ago

Your first link is blocked by my employer. Strange.

hetman 17y ago

Indeed, this search term has been uncensored when searching google.cn from outside of China for some time. I'm surprised it took Tom's Hardware so long to get onto it.