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> men and women have some fundamental differences in psychology This was largely debunked from a biological perspective [1]. Any psychological perceptions you

by bduerst 10y ago

> men and women have some fundamental differences in psychology This was largely debunked from a biological perspective [1]. Any psychological perceptions you may be referring to are largely cultural and subject to the biases that this product is trying to combat. [1] http://www.pnas.org/content/112/50/15468.full http://www.pnas.org/content/112/50/15468.full

Udik 10y ago
The study you linked doesn't absolutely say what you are trying to make it say (that there aren't fundamental differences in psychology between men and women). It seems to say that male and female brains and cognitive abilities aren't as dimorphic as their genitalia, but instead there is a continuum and overlaps for many distinct cognitive traits. In other words: (almost) all men have normally formed penises, (almost) all women have normally formed vaginas. Mixed situations are rare. Brains are another matter, genders mix and overlap. That doesn't mean that there are NO genders though.
- bduerst 10y ago
  >That doesn't mean that there are NO genders though. The study isn't saying that there are no genders - specifically it is saying: Our results demonstrate that regardless of the cause of observed sex/gender differences in brain and behavior (nature or nurture), human brains cannot be categorized into two distinct classes: male brain/female brain.
  - Udik 10y ago
    "most brains are comprised of unique “mosaics” of features, some more common in females compared with males, some more common in males compared with females, and some common in both females and males" Nothing in this view says it's not possible that, for example, an interest or a skill for engineering, while rare in both genders, might be n times more common in men than in women.
omginternets 10y ago
That paper has little, if anything, to do with aphextron's point. It's a study of brain anatomy. Here's some directly-relevant literature, which points to a systematic preference for occupations in men vs women: [0] [0] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/38061313_Men_and_Things_Women_and_People_A_Meta-Analysis_of_Sex_Differences_in_Interests https://www.researchgate.net/publication/38061313_Men_and_Th...
- bduerst 10y ago
  Hence saying it was largely debunked from a biological perspective. aphextron didn't elaborate on the source of the psychological differences. I was pointing out that it wasn't biological and most likely cultural.
  - omginternets 10y ago
    And that's completely irrelevant to the current discussion. BTW it's not even debunked from the biological perspective. It's debunked from a brain anatomy perspective.

by bduerst 10y ago

Udik 10y ago

The study you linked doesn't absolutely say what you are trying to make it say (that there aren't fundamental differences in psychology between men and women). It seems to say that male and female brains and cognitive abilities aren't as dimorphic as their genitalia, but instead there is a continuum and overlaps for many distinct cognitive traits. In other words: (almost) all men have normally formed penises, (almost) all women have normally formed vaginas. Mixed situations are rare. Brains are another matter, genders mix and overlap. That doesn't mean that there are NO genders though.

bduerst 10y ago
>That doesn't mean that there are NO genders though. The study isn't saying that there are no genders - specifically it is saying: Our results demonstrate that regardless of the cause of observed sex/gender differences in brain and behavior (nature or nurture), human brains cannot be categorized into two distinct classes: male brain/female brain.
- Udik 10y ago
  "most brains are comprised of unique “mosaics” of features, some more common in females compared with males, some more common in males compared with females, and some common in both females and males" Nothing in this view says it's not possible that, for example, an interest or a skill for engineering, while rare in both genders, might be n times more common in men than in women.

omginternets 10y ago

That paper has little, if anything, to do with aphextron's point. It's a study of brain anatomy. Here's some directly-relevant literature, which points to a systematic preference for occupations in men vs women: [0] [0] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/38061313_Men_and_Things_Women_and_People_A_Meta-Analysis_of_Sex_Differences_in_Interests https://www.researchgate.net/publication/38061313_Men_and_Th...

bduerst 10y ago
Hence saying it was largely debunked from a biological perspective. aphextron didn't elaborate on the source of the psychological differences. I was pointing out that it wasn't biological and most likely cultural.
- omginternets 10y ago
  And that's completely irrelevant to the current discussion. BTW it's not even debunked from the biological perspective. It's debunked from a brain anatomy perspective.