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The Next Gawker Will Be Darker
- ldom66 10y agoOoooh, interesting article, it's talking about... Oh, sorry I was reading... You don't like ad blockers you say? Oh well, guess it must be a pretty boring article anyway. Farewell.
- dang 10y agoPlease don't post unsubstantive comments here.
- ldom66 10y agoThis is a bit insulting. If you find my comment unsubstantive, please delete it. I think this kind of paywall is threatening the web and thought important to point it out.
- dang 10y agoI certainly didn't intend to insult you! It's more that that kind of snark is deprecated on HN, because it's associated with lower-quality internet discourse and we're trying for higher quality here. The point about paywalls also comes up so often that we've asked people not to post such complaints in the threads; for the most part they're off-topic ballast. Few people here like paywalls, but it just gets tedious reading the same complaints over and over, even if one shares the complaint.
- ldom66 10y agoI have to admit it was snarky. Thank you for explaining.
- 627467 10y agoWhy has this been flagged?
- minimaxir 10y agoAlmost anything with "Gawker" in the headline tends to get flagged.
- mudil 10y agoReally?! This article is not about Gawker per se, but rather about the possible future of journalism. Wired, a respectable publication, thought it was worth to publish this piece. Google News runs it as a featured content. Dang, what's your explanation?
- codybrown 10y agoI'm the author of this piece. why is mentioning Gawker grounds for 'flagging/banning' this?
- minimaxir 10y agoSome people really do not like Gawker.
- codybrown 10y agothis post is about what happens if Gawker is destroyed by thiel... if people really don't like gawker, then I really don't think they'll like what is likely to come next. this is a prohibitionist argument and it seems like a good thing for Hacker News to discuss instead of flagging.
- thatcat 10y ago>Paul Graham, co-founder of Y Combinator, unfollowed me after I tweeted in support of Gawker.
- dang 10y agoWe don't moderate articles because of silly gossip about pg or anyone else.
- str33t_punk 10y agoI have been seeing a lot of people I know defending Gawker and I don't really get it. If a business uses illegal practices they should be sued. There is freedom of the press but that doesn't give you complete immunity for everything. It seems like journalists these days think they can do anything they want. Remember the News International phone hacking scandal? You can't break the law to get profits. I wouldn't mind if the "next gawker" is underground -- at least no one would be profiting on shady journalist tactics
- thatcat 10y ago>Remember News International phone hacking Did they hack Hogans phone to get the tape? >Gawker says it received the Hogan sex tape anonymously on a DVD in the mail [0] People are defending Gawker because outing Peter Thiel wasn't illegal and the First Amendment is specific about celebrities personal lives being news worthy. Hogan's a public figure by his own choice and the story was true, it's not even really a case worth trying. The fact that Thiel can bleed a publisher until it goes out of business for hurting his feelings shows how unfortunately fragile the first amendment has become. [0] http://www.wired.com/2016/03/hulk-hogans-nsfw-gawker-suit-free-speech-battle-royale/ http://www.wired.com/2016/03/hulk-hogans-nsfw-gawker-suit-fr...
- tacos 10y ago> The next Gawker will be decentralized and it may follow the Wikileaks model or even publish on the dark web. There are plenty of ways to publish someone's sexual preference or sex video and you don't need to evoke Wikileaks. Likewise I doubt the marketing maven for the next Adam Sandler movie will be paying in Bitcoin for a site takeover of a .onion domain, no matter how many celebrity nudes and confidential Sony documents it leaks.
- Grue3 10y agoSo you're saying the next [website doing illegal things] will be forced to go underground? Well, duh.
- codybrown 10y agoI'm the author of this piece. can anyone explain why this piece is flagged? it has been submitted, upvoted to the home page, then banned 3 separate times.
- tptacek 10y agoUsers of the site, like me, with more than some (nominal, low) amount of karma points clicked the "flag" button that appears under the headline and flagged it off the site. Your story hasn't been "banned".
- codybrown 10y agowhat's the difference? It was upvoted to the main page then flagging boots it off right? and why did you flag it if you don't mind me asking?
- tptacek 10y agoIt makes an argument I agree with but have read in dozens of other places, and makes it in an insufferable tone. It's written in such a way that it will generate a horrible thread here. Some topics are worth long arguments on HN, but the Nth take on why Thiel vs Gawker is ominous isn't one of them.
- codybrown 10y agoah. just see you edited your comment here. glad you agree w/ the argument.
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- codybrown 10y agolol. where else have you read this argument tptacek?
- slantaclaus 10y agoSome people just want to watch the world burn...