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> This feels like a problem that is getting amenable to a technological solution. While it's certainly possible to apply some technology to this solution, it a

> This feels like a problem that is getting amenable to a technological solution. While it's certainly possible to apply some technology to this solution, it actually amazes me that people don't spend more time reading and negotiating these. If you're an engineer, your employment contract is worth literally hundreds of thousands of dollars. The idea that you wouldn't at least read and understand the whole thing yourself (and seek professional counsel if necessary) is ludicrous and a terrible way to live. One sneaky thing which companies do is only giving you paperwork (including a non-compete) on your first day of work. During negotiation, I always insist on seeing a copy of what I'll be asked to sign before agreeing to take the job. Anyone who refuses this is trying to pull something over on you.

nommm-nommm 10y ago
>If you're an engineer, your employment contract is worth literally hundreds of thousands of dollars. I am an engineer. I don't have an employment contract, I have a piece of paper that has my salary and says I'm an at will employee. Ive never had anything else, literally every job - salary and "you are at will". Benefits have changed all the time with no notice. What kind of contacts are you guys getting?
- morgante 10y ago
  I meant "employment contract" in the sense of the dozens of pages of legal documentation you'll typically sign, including stock agreements, non-competes, etc.
  - nommm-nommm 10y ago
    Never signed anything other than the aforementioned piece of paper (2 sentences) and a NDA. Unless you work for a start up with 5 employees and no HR the HR Dept has its set benefits and forms you must sign, those are not negotiable, only salary is. Typically you are in a standard benefits group depending on the date you were hired and if you are full time or part time. Example: benefits group 3, everyone in that group has the same benefits, you surely aren't going to negotiate special treatment.

nommm-nommm 10y ago

>If you're an engineer, your employment contract is worth literally hundreds of thousands of dollars. I am an engineer. I don't have an employment contract, I have a piece of paper that has my salary and says I'm an at will employee. Ive never had anything else, literally every job - salary and "you are at will". Benefits have changed all the time with no notice. What kind of contacts are you guys getting?

morgante 10y ago
I meant "employment contract" in the sense of the dozens of pages of legal documentation you'll typically sign, including stock agreements, non-competes, etc.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  Never signed anything other than the aforementioned piece of paper (2 sentences) and a NDA. Unless you work for a start up with 5 employees and no HR the HR Dept has its set benefits and forms you must sign, those are not negotiable, only salary is. Typically you are in a standard benefits group depending on the date you were hired and if you are full time or part time. Example: benefits group 3, everyone in that group has the same benefits, you surely aren't going to negotiate special treatment.