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The common piece of advice that you get is to run your employment contract past a lawyer. That's good advice. If the landshark is any good they'll tell you wha

The common piece of advice that you get is to run your employment contract past a lawyer. That's good advice. If the landshark is any good they'll tell you what is industry standard and what is overreach. You don't need no website, you need a professional network and some sense.

dredmorbius 10y ago
Porque no los dos? Having and hiring your own expert to negotiate helps. But shining some very bright sunlight on practices and abuses helps as well. The more Amazon (and its recruiters) hear "I don't work for assholes", the better. Markets rely on well-informed participants. Also Microsoft. And, on different grounds, Oracle. And Google, Intel, Cisco, and Apple ("anti-poaching" market collusion -- the case is still ongoing AFAIK, though I've not been following closely). I've many reasons for avoiding the industry, but these are among them.
- WildUtah 10y ago
  "Porque no los dos?" ¿Por qué no los dos?
  - dredmorbius 10y ago
    Por que no los dos?
    - throwaway987611 10y ago
      Please don't bring that garbage here. It's not a funny meme. It wasn't funny when it first aired and it's not funny now.
  - TeMPOraL 10y ago
    Translation for the rest of us: "why not both?".
  - throwaway987611 10y ago
    Please don't bring that garbage here. It's not a funny meme. It wasn't funny when it first aired and it's not funny now.
  - notlefthanded 10y ago
    http://www.fluentu.com/spanish/blog/porque-por-que/ http://www.fluentu.com/spanish/blog/porque-por-que/
- throwaway987611 10y ago
  > Porque no los dos? Please don't bring that garbage here. It's not a funny meme. It wasn't funny when it first aired and it's not funny now.
Bartweiss 10y ago
This is good advice for many people, sure, but not a replacement for transparency. Several companies I talked to for my first internship came with NDAs and noncompetes, and there's no way in hell I was scraping together lawyer money to address each one. Googling and asking friends was the only thing going. Remember that freaking Jimmy John's sticks their sandwich makers with noncompete clauses. These are not people who have the freedom to reject a job offer, the pull to renegotiate a contract, or the money to hire an attorney. But they might well have the option of checking out a website and deciding which fast food places to apply to based on how abusive the contracts are. More broadly, I'm skeptical of any argument which starts from "this doesn't need to be publicly available knowledge, just pay a lawyer to tell you how things are done". Personal legal advice is a good hedge, but it often highlights points where transparency is lacking and people without savings are getting screwed.

dredmorbius 10y ago

Porque no los dos? Having and hiring your own expert to negotiate helps. But shining some very bright sunlight on practices and abuses helps as well. The more Amazon (and its recruiters) hear "I don't work for assholes", the better. Markets rely on well-informed participants. Also Microsoft. And, on different grounds, Oracle. And Google, Intel, Cisco, and Apple ("anti-poaching" market collusion -- the case is still ongoing AFAIK, though I've not been following closely). I've many reasons for avoiding the industry, but these are among them.

WildUtah 10y ago
"Porque no los dos?" ¿Por qué no los dos?
- dredmorbius 10y ago
  Por que no los dos?
  - throwaway987611 10y ago
    Please don't bring that garbage here. It's not a funny meme. It wasn't funny when it first aired and it's not funny now.
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  Translation for the rest of us: "why not both?".
- throwaway987611 10y ago
  Please don't bring that garbage here. It's not a funny meme. It wasn't funny when it first aired and it's not funny now.
- notlefthanded 10y ago
  http://www.fluentu.com/spanish/blog/porque-por-que/ http://www.fluentu.com/spanish/blog/porque-por-que/
throwaway987611 10y ago
> Porque no los dos? Please don't bring that garbage here. It's not a funny meme. It wasn't funny when it first aired and it's not funny now.

Bartweiss 10y ago

This is good advice for many people, sure, but not a replacement for transparency. Several companies I talked to for my first internship came with NDAs and noncompetes, and there's no way in hell I was scraping together lawyer money to address each one. Googling and asking friends was the only thing going. Remember that freaking Jimmy John's sticks their sandwich makers with noncompete clauses. These are not people who have the freedom to reject a job offer, the pull to renegotiate a contract, or the money to hire an attorney. But they might well have the option of checking out a website and deciding which fast food places to apply to based on how abusive the contracts are. More broadly, I'm skeptical of any argument which starts from "this doesn't need to be publicly available knowledge, just pay a lawyer to tell you how things are done". Personal legal advice is a good hedge, but it often highlights points where transparency is lacking and people without savings are getting screwed.