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I'll say this first: I personally think the referendum was a terrible idea. Economically, I disagree with the result. This notion of "prosperity in 10 years" wi
by wanda 10y ago
I'll say this first: I personally think the referendum was a terrible idea. Economically, I disagree with the result. This notion of "prosperity in 10 years" with "a bit of a recession in the short/medium term" burns the working class the most. It's not fair on workers at all to throw the dice like this.
Nevertheless, it is absurd to predict the collapse of the UK because the pound tanked. Most people pressing for a Brexit probably expected that, and many may profit from it. Similarly, the turbulence so far is a non-event compared to the banking crisis.
I would feel better about Brexit if it had a plan behind it. Equally, if Scotland would be extended an invitation to vote for its independence and then EU membership. Of course, this (apparent) lack of planning is not the fault of the electorate.
I think the big issue now is indeed the response from an elite which has had its pretty face scratched. All that these desperate articles on Brexit loopholes reveal is that, since people who profit from speculating are thinking about such loopholes, you can bet that the likes of Boris Johnson (or any Conservative for that matter), who will prefer or profit from preserving the status quo, are thinking about the same things.
About how they can reimagine or circumvent the idea that the majority voted for. About how a Brexit can be converted into a downgrade from EU to EEA membership, or how the Brexit might be indefinitely postponed. It might make economic sense, but there will be a lot of perplexed people out there watching "BoJo" become a hero who handled a difficult situation by failing both sides of the Brexit debate in equal measure.
Of course the kind of thing Farage has in mind is absurd, of course, but a Brexit doesn't have to be a tragedy. People just have to realise that for a profitable solution, the EU must be identified as a competitor as well as a friend.
Personally, I think Cameron and Johnson planned the whole thing from the start. Boris acting as a Trojan horse for Cameron/the remain campaign. He was never a Eurosceptic, until suddenly after the Leave campaign started gaining momentum.
I have no proof, just a whisper. Observations of the both of them, and Angela Merkel's sudden "patience is a virtue" approach after a phone call from Cameron over the weekend followed by a cocky return to parliament by the incumbent prime minister.
And no, it's not wishful thinking. I don't enjoy recessions more than the next person, but the recession is not guaranteed no matter how many times the banks warn against it. I am not concerned by nations or identities. I believe in realpolitik and economic strength. If Brexit turns profitable, it will have been worth it. I'm just speculating for the sake of speculating.
- ZeroGravitas 10y ago> they can reimagine or circumvent the idea that the majority voted for. About how a Brexit can be converted into a downgrade from EU to EEA membership The ballot paper said "leave the EU". What that looks like is apparently negotiable and dependant on political realities, since no one actually knows what people intended when they voted leave.