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No [0]. There are quite a few ways in which that might be considered better, or at least a step in the right direction. [0] http://static1.squarespace.com/sta

by lhnz 10y ago

No [0]. There are quite a few ways in which that might be considered better, or at least a step in the right direction. [0] http://static1.squarespace.com/static/56eddde762cd9413e151ac92/t/57222a0222482eb0d498821d/1461859051090/?format=2500w http://static1.squarespace.com/static/56eddde762cd9413e151ac...

Oletros 10y ago
Can you give us the source for that chart because it is very curious what they say. Look at Norway and Switzerland
- UK-AL 10y ago
  Norway and Switzerland are brilliant examples of success outside of the EU. Switzerland has some of the highest quality of life you can get. They also have higher per capita gdp http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=per+capita+gdp+of+norway,+switzerland,+uk http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=per+capita+gdp+of+norwa...
  - lhnz 10y ago
    Switzerland is part of EFTA which is one step above the EEA [0] as-is my understanding. It would apparently take longer to negotiate this, however there is some political will for the UK to join [1] so it's not something that's impossible given a bit of time and exploration of each countries incentives. Longer-term it might be better if the UK diversifies more, and begins to trade less with Europe, and more with booming Asian economies or countries which share its language. Obviously in the short-term there will be a lot of noise: FUD and posturing. [0] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmBqSu-WgAEFHSa.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmBqSu-WgAEFHSa.jpg:large [1] http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/european-economic-area_switzerland-could-gain-from-britain-s-eu-negotiations/42255938 http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/european-economic-area_switzerla...
  - Oletros 10y ago
    Now look the treaties and duties both of them have. Both of them are part of Shengen Area, UK no. And one important thing for the leave campaign
- lhnz 10y ago
  It's the Adam Smith Institute's research on the EEA Option: http://www.adamsmith.org/evolution-not-revolution http://www.adamsmith.org/evolution-not-revolution
- RandomBookmarks 10y ago
  This chart is wrong in at least one line (probably many more): Norway pays about the same per capita as the UK does/did (source: interview of the german treasury secretary, Schauble). So while the Norwegian model is a valid option - it does not save the UK a single Euro.
  - lhnz 10y ago
    Alright, I asked ASI to correct the numbers if they are wrong. I did also read the Telegraph's article about Michael Burrage's book on this [0] which said something similar, however I trust their ability to report less than the ASI: > Our free access is not free access at all. Arguing for the single > market on the grounds that you can avoid a 3 per cent tariff > by actually paying 7 per cent fee is mis-selling on a scale > that dwarfs the PPI scandal. [0] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/13/not-only-can-britain-can-leave-the-eu-and-have-access-to-the-sin/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/13/not-only-can-brit...

by lhnz 10y ago

Oletros 10y ago

Can you give us the source for that chart because it is very curious what they say. Look at Norway and Switzerland

UK-AL 10y ago
Norway and Switzerland are brilliant examples of success outside of the EU. Switzerland has some of the highest quality of life you can get. They also have higher per capita gdp http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=per+capita+gdp+of+norway,+switzerland,+uk http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=per+capita+gdp+of+norwa...
- lhnz 10y ago
  Switzerland is part of EFTA which is one step above the EEA [0] as-is my understanding. It would apparently take longer to negotiate this, however there is some political will for the UK to join [1] so it's not something that's impossible given a bit of time and exploration of each countries incentives. Longer-term it might be better if the UK diversifies more, and begins to trade less with Europe, and more with booming Asian economies or countries which share its language. Obviously in the short-term there will be a lot of noise: FUD and posturing. [0] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmBqSu-WgAEFHSa.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmBqSu-WgAEFHSa.jpg:large [1] http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/european-economic-area_switzerland-could-gain-from-britain-s-eu-negotiations/42255938 http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/european-economic-area_switzerla...
- Oletros 10y ago
  Now look the treaties and duties both of them have. Both of them are part of Shengen Area, UK no. And one important thing for the leave campaign
lhnz 10y ago
It's the Adam Smith Institute's research on the EEA Option: http://www.adamsmith.org/evolution-not-revolution http://www.adamsmith.org/evolution-not-revolution
RandomBookmarks 10y ago
This chart is wrong in at least one line (probably many more): Norway pays about the same per capita as the UK does/did (source: interview of the german treasury secretary, Schauble). So while the Norwegian model is a valid option - it does not save the UK a single Euro.
- lhnz 10y ago
  Alright, I asked ASI to correct the numbers if they are wrong. I did also read the Telegraph's article about Michael Burrage's book on this [0] which said something similar, however I trust their ability to report less than the ASI: > Our free access is not free access at all. Arguing for the single > market on the grounds that you can avoid a 3 per cent tariff > by actually paying 7 per cent fee is mis-selling on a scale > that dwarfs the PPI scandal. [0] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/13/not-only-can-britain-can-leave-the-eu-and-have-access-to-the-sin/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/13/not-only-can-brit...