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The brain drain depends on what policies are implemented. I have mixed feelings about BoJo but he's the front-runner for next PM and he's signalled he wants to

by IsaacL 10y ago

The brain drain depends on what policies are implemented. I have mixed feelings about BoJo but he's the front-runner for next PM and he's signalled he wants to remain open to immigration. The UK has tons of smart Indian and Chinese students coming here to study. It's one of the top 3 locations for wealthy Russians to emigrate to (along with Germany and the US). The Qataris built a half billion dollar glass pyramid in London. I hear London has no real contender for a European tech hub (Berlin has much less available talent from what I gather). If a pro-international Brexit happens, we're in OK shape (big if, granted). I was planning to leave before Brexit, but I'm now more confident about the UK's direction and I'm planning to stay (yes I know this is a rare position heh).

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madaxe_again 10y ago
You're talking about the past in the present tense. I had dinner with a Russian couple last night in Tallinn who had been planning on moving their business to the UK. As of this week, they've changed their kind, they're staying in Tallinn. Sure, one data point, but you can't act as if nothing has changed. It has.
SinomaSo 10y ago
As a highly skilled IT person living in London with a European passport, I have to disagree with you. First, there is this uncertainty of what is going to happen in the next 2-5 years. I can't build a future for my small family based on what may or may not happen regarding VISA or Emmigration laws. Will I be able to change my job easily? will the new employee request "UK only passport holders"? will I have restriction on changing jobs? Will I have the same freedom I had before?. Will I be covered by NHS or do I have to pay?. Secondly, people who are not already in the UK are getting a bad vibe from what is happening. A lot of people are considering to emigrate to Canada or the US, because the UK "doesn't want foreigners". Racist incidents are on the rise, against Muslims, east Europeans and foreigners in general. It might be similar to other countries in Europe, but its the perception that count in this case. Lastly, the divide that this referendum did between "Remainers" and "Brexiter" will have a social and political impact. Tories and Labour is in a meltdown at the moment. The next 5 years will be hard for the UK, and I hope things will stabilize soon. But this is not a place it used to be before the referendum. I'm thinking of leaving, probably in a few years. Hell, I'm even considering Dubai, because I'm uncertain of what will happen here.

by IsaacL 10y ago

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madaxe_again 10y ago

You're talking about the past in the present tense. I had dinner with a Russian couple last night in Tallinn who had been planning on moving their business to the UK. As of this week, they've changed their kind, they're staying in Tallinn. Sure, one data point, but you can't act as if nothing has changed. It has.

SinomaSo 10y ago

As a highly skilled IT person living in London with a European passport, I have to disagree with you. First, there is this uncertainty of what is going to happen in the next 2-5 years. I can't build a future for my small family based on what may or may not happen regarding VISA or Emmigration laws. Will I be able to change my job easily? will the new employee request "UK only passport holders"? will I have restriction on changing jobs? Will I have the same freedom I had before?. Will I be covered by NHS or do I have to pay?. Secondly, people who are not already in the UK are getting a bad vibe from what is happening. A lot of people are considering to emigrate to Canada or the US, because the UK "doesn't want foreigners". Racist incidents are on the rise, against Muslims, east Europeans and foreigners in general. It might be similar to other countries in Europe, but its the perception that count in this case. Lastly, the divide that this referendum did between "Remainers" and "Brexiter" will have a social and political impact. Tories and Labour is in a meltdown at the moment. The next 5 years will be hard for the UK, and I hope things will stabilize soon. But this is not a place it used to be before the referendum. I'm thinking of leaving, probably in a few years. Hell, I'm even considering Dubai, because I'm uncertain of what will happen here.