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The range increase is for distributed industrial network architectures, such as smart grids/cities. Bluetooth LE is aimed at long range, low power devices that

The range increase is for distributed industrial network architectures, such as smart grids/cities. Bluetooth LE is aimed at long range, low power devices that are checking in with telemetry-type data every so often rather than pairing your phone and your keyboard to your computer.

cbsmith 10y ago
...which is what Zigbee should be addressing.
- wirelessfoobar 10y ago
  Phone manufacturers universally adopted Bluetooth as the standard wireless protocol for peripheral devices. Zigbee and other 802.15.4 protocols will always be at a disadvantage even for tasks the Bluetooth protocol is not suited for. Bluetooth chips are cheap and more widely supported than anything else because Bluetooth radios are manufactured at massive scale for the phone market.
  - cbsmith 10y ago
    The original poster was talking about scenarios with industrial devices and NOT for pairing with phones...
    - digi_owl 10y ago
      Bluetooth is already there, and if the same chip can be used in a phone or a button cell powered telemetry sensor, economies of scale kicks in. And BTLE is specifically designed to work without the pairing dance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy
      - cbsmith 10y ago
        > Bluetooth is already there, and if the same chip can be used in a phone or a button cell powered telemetry sensor, economies of scale Actually, for industrial applications, it's more likely to be Zigbee that is already there, and the economies of scale will favour it over BTLE (particularly when you consider Zigbee allows thousands of devices in a network, while BTLE can't even get to double digits). There's a ton of other advantages to Zigbee for industrial applications (not the least of which is resiliency). Maybe you want a bluetooth bridge (though WiFi is probably very tempting for that purpose), but bluetooth is bad enough at doing its own job, let alone something else.

cbsmith 10y ago

...which is what Zigbee should be addressing.

wirelessfoobar 10y ago
Phone manufacturers universally adopted Bluetooth as the standard wireless protocol for peripheral devices. Zigbee and other 802.15.4 protocols will always be at a disadvantage even for tasks the Bluetooth protocol is not suited for. Bluetooth chips are cheap and more widely supported than anything else because Bluetooth radios are manufactured at massive scale for the phone market.
- cbsmith 10y ago
  The original poster was talking about scenarios with industrial devices and NOT for pairing with phones...
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    Bluetooth is already there, and if the same chip can be used in a phone or a button cell powered telemetry sensor, economies of scale kicks in. And BTLE is specifically designed to work without the pairing dance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy
    - cbsmith 10y ago
      > Bluetooth is already there, and if the same chip can be used in a phone or a button cell powered telemetry sensor, economies of scale Actually, for industrial applications, it's more likely to be Zigbee that is already there, and the economies of scale will favour it over BTLE (particularly when you consider Zigbee allows thousands of devices in a network, while BTLE can't even get to double digits). There's a ton of other advantages to Zigbee for industrial applications (not the least of which is resiliency). Maybe you want a bluetooth bridge (though WiFi is probably very tempting for that purpose), but bluetooth is bad enough at doing its own job, let alone something else.