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AWS Asia Pacific (Mumbai) Region
- jeffbarr 10y agoMore info at https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/now-open-aws-asia-pacific-mumbai-region/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/now-open-aws-asia-pacific-m...
- msravi 10y agoWhile this is good news, AWS really ought to work on (a) competitive pricing, and (b) flexibility in cpu/ram customization. Today, google compute instances cost less than half of similar AWS instances and allow customization of ram and cpu.
- plandis 10y agoI'm curious to know how Google gets efficient usage of their hardware when people are choosing weird RAM/CPU combos. Do you know if they have released any information on this?
- dang 10y agoOk, we changed the URL to that from https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2016/06/announcing-the-aws-asia-pacific-mumbai-region/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2016/06/announcin....
- ceasos 10y agoFinally, it getting closer bringing so much hopes. Thanks aws team.
- subbu 10y agoLooks like all those billions Jeff Bezos is investing in India are trickling into AWS infrastructure as well. This is good news for others; Singapore was their closest zone for Indian consumers. I always wanted an availability zone here in India.
- goalo 10y agolooks like pricing is costlier than EU / US
- raverbashing 10y agoI guess most places outside of EU/US have an increased price US-East is the cheapest one and it seems to be the one everybody picks first. I can only guess how the capacity there compares to other datacenters Also you can expect higher costs for hardware and infrastructure in places like India and Brazil
- flyt 10y agous-east-1 and us-west-2 pricing is locked to each other. Typically the power differences are related to the cost of power and transit/peering, not the capital of building the facilities. Northern Virginia and Oregon have (generally) cheap power and cheap connectivity to anywhere in the world, with plenty of peering opportunities. In a developing country or with more expensive infrastructure (Mumbai, Tokyo) costs will be higher to get power and pull in fiber to peering locations with enough capacity to supply a provider of Amazon's size.
- pm90 10y agoThis is the correct analysis. Power costs are high in India and its often unreliable, requiring many industries to have expensive generators in place as backup.
- deskamess 10y agoAnyone know what the AWS China pricing is like? There does not seem to be anything on the web sites for S3 or EC2. None of the calculator sites seems to have China in their list. And maybe its time for the Asia region to be broken away from Pacific (but keep both). Mumbai associated with Pacific introduces dissonance.
- sidm83 10y agoThis is great news. I work at a major ecommerce player in India and we use AWS extensively, mostly from Singapore region. There have been internal discussions multiple times to move to a provider within India to prevent downtimes in case of an undersea cable cut or to gain the extra few fractions of a second in page load times but we always chose AWS for the flexibility it provides. Been waiting for this for a while!
- sidcool 10y agoAlso helps with regulatory stuff
- eicossa 10y agoFlipkart ?
- captn3m0 10y agoFlipkart is known not to use AWS (in production), because of being their primary competitor.
- sidm83 10y agoNope. Flipkart's entire setup is in Netmagic's (An NTT Communications company) datacenters as per my knowledge.
- kgdinesh 10y agoNot anymore. They've built their own DC and moved away from NM.
- BilalBudhani 10y agoSnapdeal? Last time I checked with them, they were hosting their infra partially on AWS and rest in their own DC.
- dellynamian 10y agoSo, more air pollution in Mumbai?
- ceasos 10y agolets move it to my place (Nepal) then （｡>‿‿<｡）
- curiousgal 10y agox + 1000 ~ x as x → ∞
- matt_wulfeck 10y agoI'm really curious about the power infrastructure they use within their DC to guarantee availability. Even when I was in a very nice part of Delhi there were frequent brown outs.
- spikengineer 10y agoIndustries get 24 hrs guaranteed power. It is the regular consumers that get timed power cuts. I am on a industrial connection and I only faced two failure power cuts in this year and I live in a major Indian city.
- avinashv 10y agoCompletely false. Across three factories in two states, I don't get "guaranteed" power. In fact, the only place I see basically uninterrupted power is in the nice parts of residential Bombay.
- manojlds 10y agoIT parks manage with more regular power and, of course, generators. I am sure a DC like this will be able to manage in India :)
- jedberg 10y agoAll of their datacenters around the world have batteries and diesel generators. They don't trust the local power anywhere.
- thejosh 10y agoIn Australia, AWS was beaten by actual clouds recently. http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/web-chaos-mostly-over-after-amazon-web-services-hit-by-power-outage-during-sydney-storm-20160605-gpc707.html http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/web-chaos-m...
- intended 10y agoWell, my firm has sold Gensets to Amazon and other Data centers. (I don't know if we sold to their Mumbai AWS facility) Every data center keeps on site generators to deal with power shortages. I think its part of the standard design paradigm (world wide). Mumbai has stable power whereas in Delhi brownouts are relatively common occurrences. Its kinda funny to have this pop up anywhere on HN.
- kondro 10y agoIs Mumbai really in Asia Pacific? India doesn't touch the Pacific. In fact, it touches an entirely different ocean named after it.
- spikengineer 10y agoAsia Pacific means all of Asia plus the Pacific countries like Australia and the scattered islands in the pacific.
- ajdlinux 10y agoIt's generally not considered to include Western Asia/the Middle East, though.
- spikengineer 10y agoMiddle East is generally merged with Europe and Africa and called EMEA (Europe/Middle-East/Africa)
- manojlds 10y agoDepends on context - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia-Pacific https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia-Pacific
- dgemm 10y agoWell it's definitely in Asia. To me it makes no sense to lump such a huge area together under "asia-pacific" though. Even just Asia would be too big.
- intended 10y agoUsually it counts as part of the Indian Subcontinent Region IIRC?
- mitchtbaum 10y agoEarth has more than one ocean? I guess your model\map might, so perhaps with these tools you can get insight into your question. https://bfi.org/about-fuller/big-ideas/dymaxion-world/dymaxion-map https://bfi.org/about-fuller/big-ideas/dymaxion-world/dymaxi... http://www.cartotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=9406 http://www.cartotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=9406 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globe
- nnain 10y agoOh my, waiting for this announcement forever! I was always anxious about the fact that so much data from Indian users had to be hosted outside.
- kartickv 10y agoThis is great news. Sites hosted in India load much quicker than ones hosted abroad.
- yarapavan 10y agoGreat news, indeed! I was hoping to see one more region in Chennai or Hyderabad.
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- dharma1 10y agoI noticed Digital Ocean added an India datacentre too - https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/introducing-our-bangalore-region-blr1/ https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/introducing-our-ba...
- madhukarah 10y agoServer response rate seems to be very slow.
- AJ007 10y agoFrom India?
- webtechgal 10y agoI migrated a droplet from Singapore to Bangalore on the 12th. It hosts a site that was averaging ~ 15k page views per day, predominantly Indian traffic (banking recruitment guide). Since then, the traffic has been rising steadily and yesterday crossed an all-time high of 26k page views. (No other changes made to the site)
- _nedR 10y agoWhat could explain the increase in traffic? Higher visitor retention due to improved page load performance?
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- dharma1 10y agodoes Google take server location into account when showing search results? edit: seems they might. This is a probable cause for the increase in your traffic https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/62399?hl=en https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/62399?hl=en
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- sukh 10y ago~10ms from Tata and Airtel in Pune. Anyone got latency from Vodafone and MTNL?
- miyuru 10y agoif anyone wants a IP to ping or tracert, use below server-54-230-174-13.bom2.r.cloudfront.net btw 70 ms avg ping from LK, not bad
- subinsebastien 10y agoDo you have the same for Singapore region. (to compare latency)
- msravi 10y agoFrom BLR over an ACT line: ~25ms From BLR over an Airtel line: ~65ms From Taiwan (google compute instance): ~112ms
- ehhh 10y ago???
- t3ra 10y ago50ms Nagpur Tata line 70 ms for blr digitalocean 90-110 ms for Singapore DO 120-140 ms for European DC like OVH & online.net
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- hoodoof 10y agoIt would be great if there was an API that lists the AWS regions. Currently it is up to the developer to maintain a hard coded list somewhere.
- r4um 10y agoThere is an API available http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/APIReference/API_DescribeRegions.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/APIReference/API_De...
- gadnuk 10y agoIf you are using the Java API, there is an enum Regions in the com.amazonaws.regions package.
- duskwuff 10y agoThat would be a hard-coded list. hoodoof means something that'd dynamically tell you what existed, not just what happened to exist when your copy of the AWS library was released.
- _navaneethan 10y agoWill Indian startups start migrating their DC's to Mumbai region?
- biot 10y agoThe primary consideration for DC location is where your customers are located. If a startup is focused on the US market, such a move would make no sense. So, as with anything engineering, it depends.
- legedemon 10y agoYes! We are right now testing to see if there are any issues. Will move soon afterwards hopefully.
- train_robber 10y agoWe are definitely migrating. We were forced not to use AWS so far due to regulatory issues with data needing to reside in India. Long awaited!
- cloudgentleman 10y agoToday, AWS has announced the general availability of its new India region, which should come as no surprise to any avid cloud engineer. AWS is not a new concept to India with its set of early adopters harnessing and driving cloud usage in the country for many years. As with all regional expansions, AWS must develop a highly knowledgeable and skilled local technical community. To help drive this process, Cloud Academy is excited to announce an introductory offer for Indian residents to celebrate the launch of the AWS India region. http://cloudacademy.com/blog/new-aws-indian-region-cloud-academy-sponsor-of-the-aws-india-summit/ http://cloudacademy.com/blog/new-aws-indian-region-cloud-aca...
- fha 10y agoI'm based in the Middle East and was really looking forward to this since announcement we use the Singapore region and currently get 105ms pings to our instances. Yet, how come I get 135ms pings to Mumbai despite it being MUCH closer (~1930km vs 5840km to Singapore) ?
- aptwebapps 10y agoRun traceroute and see where it's going.
- fha 10y agoDoesn't look good at Mumbai: 6 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms ix-xe-9-0-1-0.tcore2.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [180.87.39.57] 7 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms if-ae-2-2.tcore1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [180.87.38.1] 8 131 ms 123 ms 124 ms 180.87.38.6 9 141 ms 135 ms 134 ms 115.114.89.118.static-Mumbai.vsnl.net.in [115.114.89.118] 10 143 ms 136 ms 183 ms 52.95.66.176 11 139 ms 136 ms 136 ms 52.95.66.197 12 124 ms 124 ms 123 ms 52.95.67.208 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 136 ms 136 ms 136 ms <Instance IP> Whereas for Singapore: 6 145 ms 154 ms 146 ms 38895.sgw.equinix.com [27.111.228.215] 7 94 ms 102 ms 92 ms 52.93.8.10 8 94 ms 92 ms 92 ms 52.93.8.29 9 106 ms 104 ms 104 ms 203.83.223.31 10 107 ms 104 ms 104 ms <Instance IP>
- betaby 10y agoWhat is your src IP? Both 52.95.67.208 and 203.83.223.31 are less than 80ms for me from Mumbai.
- _nedR 10y agoLol. I am in South India, and when gaming, i frequently get better ping to Singapore than other parts of India; Also performance varies widely depending on my ip and the time of the day. The routing in local isps is atrocious. I thought the situation would be different for commercial connections but your experience seems to suggest otherwise.
- NetStrikeForce 10y agoMicrosoft Azure had already (Edit: actually three) datacentres in India: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/regions/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/regions/ This completely confirms the region as a technological hub moving forward.
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- shiftpgdn 10y agoSlightly OT but Azure is such a better product than AWS. I was really skeptical because Microsoft has a legacy of doing an absolute shit job at all their copycat products. I happened into some credit and gave it a try during some downtime and was extremely pleasantly surprised. It's as if somebody applied a 2016 interface and usability to AWS.
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- 0xmohit 10y agoHope that Google Cloud Platform follows suit and arrives in India soon.
- shade23 10y agoPatiently waiting for App Engine to announce the same too.Just waiting..