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So, the only academic paper in the sources in the post is a PhD thesis which appears to be the entire argument undergirding this post. If you're interested in

So, the only academic paper in the sources in the post is a PhD thesis which appears to be the entire argument undergirding this post. If you're interested in the subject, that might be a good place to start: https://open.library.ubc.ca/cIRcle/collections/ubctheses/24/items/1.0071589 https://open.library.ubc.ca/cIRcle/collections/ubctheses/24/...

pierrec 10y ago
While it might be a more authoritative place to start, it's not the only academic paper in the sources, and it's definitely not the entire argument undergirding this post. I for one appreciate when he pulls out a citation that make you raise an eyebrow.
- knowtheory 10y ago
  Hey! You're right, i'd missed https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/2921 https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/2921 I guess i'm super conservative about sourcing when reading arguments made about historical topics (and academic papers at least tend to make it clear whether or not their sourcing is primary, secondary, or what). Especially when it comes to claims of what the common perception was at any particular point in human history i am always curious to see not what someone's narrative is, but what they're building their case upon. (also as an aside the use of The Last Samurai as a lens or touchstone for discussing bushido was a bit weird to me given how prevalent the notion of bushido is. But maybe i'm just sad that that's the go-to reference.)
  - pierrec 10y ago
    You're still missing one... https://www.erudit.org/revue/ttr/2010/v23/n2/1009160ar.html https://www.erudit.org/revue/ttr/2010/v23/n2/1009160ar.html (While not 100% about the original version of Nitobe's book, they still analyze it and provide a bunch more references concerning it). Yeah, there's a good chance The Last Samurai might currently be the most popular lens through which people view bushido right now (Americans at least). I share your sadness but I'm sure most people actually have multiple points of reference on the concept. Would be funny if it continued to evolve into something completely different (something featuring Tom Cruise?)
twblalock 10y ago
I studied Japanese history in a grad program for a while, and every professor I met agreed that bushido is a modern construct. There are plenty of academic articles about it, but you probably won't find many of them without access to JSTOR.

pierrec 10y ago

While it might be a more authoritative place to start, it's not the only academic paper in the sources, and it's definitely not the entire argument undergirding this post. I for one appreciate when he pulls out a citation that make you raise an eyebrow.

knowtheory 10y ago
Hey! You're right, i'd missed https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/2921 https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/2921 I guess i'm super conservative about sourcing when reading arguments made about historical topics (and academic papers at least tend to make it clear whether or not their sourcing is primary, secondary, or what). Especially when it comes to claims of what the common perception was at any particular point in human history i am always curious to see not what someone's narrative is, but what they're building their case upon. (also as an aside the use of The Last Samurai as a lens or touchstone for discussing bushido was a bit weird to me given how prevalent the notion of bushido is. But maybe i'm just sad that that's the go-to reference.)
- pierrec 10y ago
  You're still missing one... https://www.erudit.org/revue/ttr/2010/v23/n2/1009160ar.html https://www.erudit.org/revue/ttr/2010/v23/n2/1009160ar.html (While not 100% about the original version of Nitobe's book, they still analyze it and provide a bunch more references concerning it). Yeah, there's a good chance The Last Samurai might currently be the most popular lens through which people view bushido right now (Americans at least). I share your sadness but I'm sure most people actually have multiple points of reference on the concept. Would be funny if it continued to evolve into something completely different (something featuring Tom Cruise?)

twblalock 10y ago

I studied Japanese history in a grad program for a while, and every professor I met agreed that bushido is a modern construct. There are plenty of academic articles about it, but you probably won't find many of them without access to JSTOR.