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Wow. If only people knew. Just get a better job and save for four years. Goes back to my original point, doesn't it? You are essentially agreeing with me, beca

by cairo_x 10y ago

Wow. If only people knew. Just get a better job and save for four years. Goes back to my original point, doesn't it? You are essentially agreeing with me, because these are the exact measures most must go through -- only things don't always work out like that. Your computer breaks. You lose a job. You have to pay for other crap. Trade off after trade off for a game that cost the same as a big budget film. It's ludicrous.

Nadya 10y ago
They simply cannot afford a $350 computer each year if they cannot afford a $1,200 computer after {3 + n} years. Period. Full stop. There is no way they can spend more money but be incapable of spending less money if they're able to spend that money at all. That isn't how money works. If you don't have enough to spend less - you simply cannot afford to spend more than that. If they can (barely) afford a $350 machine each year, they aren't the level of poor you're trying to talk about. You're talking about people who can't even afford the $350 machine. We aren't talking about how someone with more money initially has the privilege of spending less money over time (eg: the "better boots" scenario) Getting a better job did speed things up a year but wasn't necessary. Which doesn't go back to your original point, at all. I had no problem with waiting five years for a decent computer if that had to be the case.
- cairo_x 10y ago
  What are you on about? Stop straw manning me. When did I ever say saving will get your hearts desire means being able afford a 350 a year should afford you 1200 after 3 years? If you want to nitpick, you will see that I said one would have to save AND get a better job for the above to make sense. My point was prices for casual entertainment vs occasional entertainment (computer games/movies,etc/ vs holidays/niche sports/etc) is dissonant when it comes to computer hardware + titles. Yes, the hardware itself has better value than the holiday, because the results last for 4 years (best case for the games we're talking about), but the hardware is the medium -- it still requires paying extra for the actual game(s), plus all manner of extra circumstantial costs. In fact one may gain for more from holiday -- in terms of life experiences, satisfaction, well being, etc, in the long run.

by cairo_x 10y ago

Nadya 10y ago

They simply cannot afford a $350 computer each year if they cannot afford a $1,200 computer after {3 + n} years. Period. Full stop. There is no way they can spend more money but be incapable of spending less money if they're able to spend that money at all. That isn't how money works. If you don't have enough to spend less - you simply cannot afford to spend more than that. If they can (barely) afford a $350 machine each year, they aren't the level of poor you're trying to talk about. You're talking about people who can't even afford the $350 machine. We aren't talking about how someone with more money initially has the privilege of spending less money over time (eg: the "better boots" scenario) Getting a better job did speed things up a year but wasn't necessary. Which doesn't go back to your original point, at all. I had no problem with waiting five years for a decent computer if that had to be the case.

cairo_x 10y ago
What are you on about? Stop straw manning me. When did I ever say saving will get your hearts desire means being able afford a 350 a year should afford you 1200 after 3 years? If you want to nitpick, you will see that I said one would have to save AND get a better job for the above to make sense. My point was prices for casual entertainment vs occasional entertainment (computer games/movies,etc/ vs holidays/niche sports/etc) is dissonant when it comes to computer hardware + titles. Yes, the hardware itself has better value than the holiday, because the results last for 4 years (best case for the games we're talking about), but the hardware is the medium -- it still requires paying extra for the actual game(s), plus all manner of extra circumstantial costs. In fact one may gain for more from holiday -- in terms of life experiences, satisfaction, well being, etc, in the long run.