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I'm claiming that whatever I build with natural resources I find is mine. You happen to disagree with that statement. Fine. Now, tell me how you would practice

I'm claiming that whatever I build with natural resources I find is mine. You happen to disagree with that statement. Fine. Now, tell me how you would practice what you preach (socialism, wealth redistribution, etc.) without attacking me (or using the threat of violence, which is practically the same thing) to steal my work (or part of it).

davidw 19y ago
Maybe they should just let the kids play with the damn legos and enjoy themselves and not try and get all philosophical about it, one way or the other.
- corentin 19y ago
  Yeah; that's what free-market anarchy is all about in the first place :)
bct 19y ago
How do you prevent people from using the things you claim ownership to without violence?
- corentin 19y ago
  I don't; so don't steal my lunch :)
  - euccastro 19y ago
    That's (pre) feudal rather than capitalist, and it's not actually how it's working for you. Much of your wealth is in places where you don't have the physical means to reclaim it or defend it by yourself. Much of your money is held in custody in some bank, where you put it because you trust they'll give it back to you when you ask for it, not because you think you can strongarm the clerks into returning it to you. Maybe your car is parked out on the street. Even if you have it in a garage of your own, if some burglars came you may find it more reasonable to let your insurance company or the police take care of it rather than risk your life trying to stop it yourself via violence. Those mechanisms work because there are rules in place about what is reasonable use of resources and wealth, and those rules could not be stable or widely respected if you couldn't defend they're just in some way.
anewaccountname 19y ago
"with natural resources I find" Like all the land we took from the Indians?
euccastro 19y ago
> I'm claiming that whatever I build with natural resources I find is mine. That doesn't scale. Humanity's ability to find natural resources dwarfs the amount of natural resources to be found on earth. It's not hard to 'find' arable land, for example. Any counterclaims would have to be defended in base of some agreeable concept of justice, or failing that, via violence, actual or anticipated. Violence over resources can happen, and happens, irrespective of ideological differences.
bocajuniors 19y ago
it's only yours if society accepts it as yours

davidw 19y ago

Maybe they should just let the kids play with the damn legos and enjoy themselves and not try and get all philosophical about it, one way or the other.

corentin 19y ago
Yeah; that's what free-market anarchy is all about in the first place :)

bct 19y ago

How do you prevent people from using the things you claim ownership to without violence?

corentin 19y ago
I don't; so don't steal my lunch :)
- euccastro 19y ago
  That's (pre) feudal rather than capitalist, and it's not actually how it's working for you. Much of your wealth is in places where you don't have the physical means to reclaim it or defend it by yourself. Much of your money is held in custody in some bank, where you put it because you trust they'll give it back to you when you ask for it, not because you think you can strongarm the clerks into returning it to you. Maybe your car is parked out on the street. Even if you have it in a garage of your own, if some burglars came you may find it more reasonable to let your insurance company or the police take care of it rather than risk your life trying to stop it yourself via violence. Those mechanisms work because there are rules in place about what is reasonable use of resources and wealth, and those rules could not be stable or widely respected if you couldn't defend they're just in some way.

anewaccountname 19y ago

"with natural resources I find" Like all the land we took from the Indians?

euccastro 19y ago

> I'm claiming that whatever I build with natural resources I find is mine. That doesn't scale. Humanity's ability to find natural resources dwarfs the amount of natural resources to be found on earth. It's not hard to 'find' arable land, for example. Any counterclaims would have to be defended in base of some agreeable concept of justice, or failing that, via violence, actual or anticipated. Violence over resources can happen, and happens, irrespective of ideological differences.

bocajuniors 19y ago

it's only yours if society accepts it as yours