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Creator here, this project stemmed Go Interfaces, #TAKEMEANYWHERE (LaBeouf and company) and there was no existing tool like BlackBox. I created BlackBox for the

Creator here, this project stemmed Go Interfaces, #TAKEMEANYWHERE (LaBeouf and company) and there was no existing tool like BlackBox. I created BlackBox for the sake of composing, what will you do with these tool in your box? I feel it's more coherent then jodi.org, but just barely. [edit: spelling]

mpnordland 10y ago
Serious question: What do you define art to be? I've taken some introductory Art class, but really never got a clear answer of what art is. How does art differ from kitsch?
- abathur 10y ago
  Both art and kitsch are emergent judgements that result from how people practice aesthetics and creativity at scale. It's a fair question to ask individuals as long as you're more interested in what they think about art than hoping for a definitive answer that will somehow resolve millennia of contentious debate, but individual definitions are beside the point. That said, I've been toying with a definition recently, that "art is something that should be considered more deeply." I like this definition because it foregrounds (instead of trying to dodge) the various agencies and tensions involved.
- SuperPaintMan 10y ago
  That's a tricky question because of subjectivity and the shift towards a postmodern lens. The question what is Art becomes entirely dependant on the viewer/creator. For me Art is the act of expression. To poets, the reading. To painters, painting. To hackers, hacking. The object is simply a object left over documenting the process (although utmost attention is provided to the object during the act). Kitsch I would define as engaging that creation mechanism with substandard intent. Maybe to copy a photograph with paint, or just muck about on a canvas because there is an hour to kill. When the focus is the documentation, it becomes programming for programmings sake, and loses the artistic merit. At least, through my eyes.
plcancel 10y ago
It seems more like a project to explore the philosophy of tech. What's in the box? Edit: Perhaps the box is the art and the outputs are commentary on Art as a Commodity?
- SuperPaintMan 10y ago
  If anything, the personality is a commentary on the philosophy of tech. What scars has dealing with large amounts of textual/image data left on you as a functional human? Where does the machine end and the human begin. Is there a grey area where both bend towards each other? Have these machines formalized myself? I am creating humanistic sincere programs? What's in the box? That's an entire lives work of questions, flesh blood and tabstop=2?

mpnordland 10y ago

Serious question: What do you define art to be? I've taken some introductory Art class, but really never got a clear answer of what art is. How does art differ from kitsch?

abathur 10y ago
Both art and kitsch are emergent judgements that result from how people practice aesthetics and creativity at scale. It's a fair question to ask individuals as long as you're more interested in what they think about art than hoping for a definitive answer that will somehow resolve millennia of contentious debate, but individual definitions are beside the point. That said, I've been toying with a definition recently, that "art is something that should be considered more deeply." I like this definition because it foregrounds (instead of trying to dodge) the various agencies and tensions involved.
SuperPaintMan 10y ago
That's a tricky question because of subjectivity and the shift towards a postmodern lens. The question what is Art becomes entirely dependant on the viewer/creator. For me Art is the act of expression. To poets, the reading. To painters, painting. To hackers, hacking. The object is simply a object left over documenting the process (although utmost attention is provided to the object during the act). Kitsch I would define as engaging that creation mechanism with substandard intent. Maybe to copy a photograph with paint, or just muck about on a canvas because there is an hour to kill. When the focus is the documentation, it becomes programming for programmings sake, and loses the artistic merit. At least, through my eyes.

plcancel 10y ago

It seems more like a project to explore the philosophy of tech. What's in the box? Edit: Perhaps the box is the art and the outputs are commentary on Art as a Commodity?

SuperPaintMan 10y ago
If anything, the personality is a commentary on the philosophy of tech. What scars has dealing with large amounts of textual/image data left on you as a functional human? Where does the machine end and the human begin. Is there a grey area where both bend towards each other? Have these machines formalized myself? I am creating humanistic sincere programs? What's in the box? That's an entire lives work of questions, flesh blood and tabstop=2?