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Several political leaders admitted that they lied during the election, therefore people voted based on lies. Since the majority isn't that big (less than 52%) i

Several political leaders admitted that they lied during the election, therefore people voted based on lies. Since the majority isn't that big (less than 52%) is would be acceptable to not immediately follow through. It's as big as a constitutional change and such change usually require more than 50% to be adopted.

Nursie 10y ago
Like David Cameron and his promise to invoke article 50 last Friday? Or George Osborne and his punishment budget? There were dreadful lies on both sides. Personally I treated the entire campaign period as a sideshow we'd have been better off without, the issues and opinions about EU membership are far deeper rooted than the last few weeks of noisy bickering. Further, the constitutional changes that got us in were not subject to supermajority conditions, in fact no political party that implemented them had an equivalent mandate behind them to either side of the referendum vote.
- gmac 10y ago
  There were dreadful lies on both sides. I disagree. Leave's lies were on a completely different (larger) scale. Most fundamentally, Leave claimed that Brexit would not be an economic disaster, which they cannot possibly have known — especially since they very clearly have no plan at all for what's next.
- DanBC 10y ago
  I agree that both sides were pretty bad. Did Remain have a lie painted on the side of their bus? A lie printed on huge posters at press conferences? A lie that they rode back from on the morning of the results? http://imgur.com/indvx6a http://imgur.com/indvx6a
robhu 10y ago
I have not seen anyone admit that they lied - I have seen several point out that what they said when asked about a policy was more nuanced than what was a slogan, but that is not lieing. Can you please reference where you saw a politician actually "admit they lied"?
- vmateixeira 10y ago
  Sure, here you go... http://www.itv.com/goodmorningbritain/news/nigel-farage-labels-350m-nhs-promise-a-mistake http://www.itv.com/goodmorningbritain/news/nigel-farage-labe... http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7943774.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/JS89532410.jpg http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7943774.ece/ALTERNATE...
  - rlpb 10y ago
    You've fallen victim to media spin. Farage did not claim this. In case you read the articles differently, Farage wasn't part of the "Leave campaign". He was part of the Leave.EU campaign. The media want to portray Farage as a hypocrite, so they write their articles to make it seem like he is. But understand the distinction between the two different campaigns, read the article carefully, and you'll see that the article doesn't actually say this.
    - vmateixeira 10y ago
      I don't like the independent but it seems to disagree with you.. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-nigel-farage-nhs-350-million-pounds-live-health-service-u-turn-a7102831.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-refe...
      - rlpb 10y ago
        I'm just critically interpreting the facts as presented in articles you linked, which as I pointed out do not support your claim. At least your newest citation allows readers to judge for themselves. I think it's a stretch to claim that it was a campaign promise [from Farage], but that's up to you to decide. I voted Remain, BTW, and don't support UKIP. But I'm not prepared to grab pitchforks on a tenuous claim of hypocrisy either.
        vmateixeira 10y ago
        I see what you mean, and I can see how it can be a stretch to blame Farage (although I don't believe Boris will keep that promise either). Farage took the risk by promoting himself towards the same goal and is paying for that. The problem is that many people voted based on that and many other lies and are feeling betrayed. Now the guilt will vanish as usual... will be no one's fault.. but somehow someone will be able to fulfil their agenda.

Nursie 10y ago

Like David Cameron and his promise to invoke article 50 last Friday? Or George Osborne and his punishment budget? There were dreadful lies on both sides. Personally I treated the entire campaign period as a sideshow we'd have been better off without, the issues and opinions about EU membership are far deeper rooted than the last few weeks of noisy bickering. Further, the constitutional changes that got us in were not subject to supermajority conditions, in fact no political party that implemented them had an equivalent mandate behind them to either side of the referendum vote.

gmac 10y ago
There were dreadful lies on both sides. I disagree. Leave's lies were on a completely different (larger) scale. Most fundamentally, Leave claimed that Brexit would not be an economic disaster, which they cannot possibly have known — especially since they very clearly have no plan at all for what's next.
DanBC 10y ago
I agree that both sides were pretty bad. Did Remain have a lie painted on the side of their bus? A lie printed on huge posters at press conferences? A lie that they rode back from on the morning of the results? http://imgur.com/indvx6a http://imgur.com/indvx6a

robhu 10y ago

I have not seen anyone admit that they lied - I have seen several point out that what they said when asked about a policy was more nuanced than what was a slogan, but that is not lieing. Can you please reference where you saw a politician actually "admit they lied"?

vmateixeira 10y ago
Sure, here you go... http://www.itv.com/goodmorningbritain/news/nigel-farage-labels-350m-nhs-promise-a-mistake http://www.itv.com/goodmorningbritain/news/nigel-farage-labe... http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7943774.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/JS89532410.jpg http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7943774.ece/ALTERNATE...
- rlpb 10y ago
  You've fallen victim to media spin. Farage did not claim this. In case you read the articles differently, Farage wasn't part of the "Leave campaign". He was part of the Leave.EU campaign. The media want to portray Farage as a hypocrite, so they write their articles to make it seem like he is. But understand the distinction between the two different campaigns, read the article carefully, and you'll see that the article doesn't actually say this.
  - vmateixeira 10y ago
    I don't like the independent but it seems to disagree with you.. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-nigel-farage-nhs-350-million-pounds-live-health-service-u-turn-a7102831.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-refe...
    - rlpb 10y ago
      I'm just critically interpreting the facts as presented in articles you linked, which as I pointed out do not support your claim. At least your newest citation allows readers to judge for themselves. I think it's a stretch to claim that it was a campaign promise [from Farage], but that's up to you to decide. I voted Remain, BTW, and don't support UKIP. But I'm not prepared to grab pitchforks on a tenuous claim of hypocrisy either.
      - vmateixeira 10y ago
        I see what you mean, and I can see how it can be a stretch to blame Farage (although I don't believe Boris will keep that promise either). Farage took the risk by promoting himself towards the same goal and is paying for that. The problem is that many people voted based on that and many other lies and are feeling betrayed. Now the guilt will vanish as usual... will be no one's fault.. but somehow someone will be able to fulfil their agenda.