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I posted this on Facebook, so i'll paste it verbatim, but i'll acknowledge that whilst it is indeed grasping futilely, it's also the case that even before the r

I posted this on Facebook, so i'll paste it verbatim, but i'll acknowledge that whilst it is indeed grasping futilely, it's also the case that even before the referendum took place, I thought it was a stupidly binary and dangerous question to be asking people: ---- Some people voted leave for less immigration, others for more balanced (non EU-biased) immigration, it seems that these goals are fundamentally at odds. This isn't the only example of polarising goals that people have expressed. Until a referendum is put forward that actually allows people to express the end result they're hoping for (leaving the EU just seems to be the first step, not the goal for most people), I strongly believe it's undemocratic to proceed under the false argument that the people have spoken. For what it's worth, the point i'm making is the same as the argument in favour of alternative vote (or single transferable vote) vs first-past-the-post elections. The way in which people are polled is insufficient for ascertaining what they actually want. A binary choice doesn't work in a world with more than two possible opinions. ----

7952 10y ago
Democracy is all about individual power rather than the collective outcome. Of course remain supporters are free to pursue continued membershpip using any legal method open to them. And the Brexit gang are free to try and stop them. IMHO the Brexiteers would almost certainly win the argument so it is not worth pursuing. On immigration I worry that we will see a crack down on non-EU immigration to allow continued EU immigration. People will argue that they are closer to us culturally, and they would be right. It is hard to see how the government can avoid appeasing ant-immigrant sentiment at this point. I agree 100% that we need a better voting system. I can't stand UKIP, but I absoutely think they should have more representation in parliment. It would be good to use this as an oppurtunity to reform the house of lords into being fully elected. Give them the authority that the EU held in terms of long term regulation. We need an institution that can take a long term view which we will sorely miss post Brexit.

7952 10y ago

Democracy is all about individual power rather than the collective outcome. Of course remain supporters are free to pursue continued membershpip using any legal method open to them. And the Brexit gang are free to try and stop them. IMHO the Brexiteers would almost certainly win the argument so it is not worth pursuing. On immigration I worry that we will see a crack down on non-EU immigration to allow continued EU immigration. People will argue that they are closer to us culturally, and they would be right. It is hard to see how the government can avoid appeasing ant-immigrant sentiment at this point. I agree 100% that we need a better voting system. I can't stand UKIP, but I absoutely think they should have more representation in parliment. It would be good to use this as an oppurtunity to reform the house of lords into being fully elected. Give them the authority that the EU held in terms of long term regulation. We need an institution that can take a long term view which we will sorely miss post Brexit.