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Just as the pope would not find atheism an acceptable attitude, RMS would not find non-free-software or software that takes away rights to your devices and data

by geff82 10y ago

Just as the pope would not find atheism an acceptable attitude, RMS would not find non-free-software or software that takes away rights to your devices and data acceptable. From what I found, it is very well possible to discuss a lot of broader topics with RMS. He seems to be very open to cultures and revolutionary ideas and can discuss them from various viewpoints if he is in the mood. He also has ideas (e.g. copyright on films) where he suggests stuff, but is open to discussion and ideas. Today, essentially all software runs on his ideas. Gnu/Linux is at the heart of Android, most (home)routers, the vast majority of webservers. The "hacker" community here at HN is full of knowledge about *Unix systems, that nowadays are full of GNU software. He is awkward a lot of times, but essentially, by being so, he (in conjunction with Linus) won over the world.

stephenr 10y ago
> Just as the pope would not find atheism an acceptable attitude Except...: > "God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience. Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience." That is a direct quote, from an article titled "Pope Francis assures atheists: You don’t have to believe in God to go to heaven" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-assures-atheists-you-don-t-have-to-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-... Hence my original point. The current pope, has made more efforts to reach out to people outside his own faith, with a reported 1.2 billion followers, than Stallman has. Stallman's ideas in general should be easier to 'sell' to people too - they don't rely on faith. > He seems to be very open to cultures and revolutionary ideas Unless that idea is, I want to release the code that I've written, under a license that lets anyone else do whatever the fuck they want with it. > Today, essentially all software runs on his ideas. I think there are a very large number of developers - both open source and commercial - that would disagree with that statement. > Gnu/Linux is at the heart of Android No, Linux, the Kernel is at the heart of Android. They specifically don't use the GNU userland environment. > he (in conjunction with Linus) won over the world. You seem to be painting Linus and RMS in the same light there, which they very much are not. Linus views Open Source as the best way to get great software. RMS views copyleft as the only way to get morally acceptable software, and cares more about preventing companies from making a profit than he does about the actual result.

by geff82 10y ago

stephenr 10y ago

> Just as the pope would not find atheism an acceptable attitude Except...: > "God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience. Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience." That is a direct quote, from an article titled "Pope Francis assures atheists: You don’t have to believe in God to go to heaven" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-assures-atheists-you-don-t-have-to-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-... Hence my original point. The current pope, has made more efforts to reach out to people outside his own faith, with a reported 1.2 billion followers, than Stallman has. Stallman's ideas in general should be easier to 'sell' to people too - they don't rely on faith. > He seems to be very open to cultures and revolutionary ideas Unless that idea is, I want to release the code that I've written, under a license that lets anyone else do whatever the fuck they want with it. > Today, essentially all software runs on his ideas. I think there are a very large number of developers - both open source and commercial - that would disagree with that statement. > Gnu/Linux is at the heart of Android No, Linux, the Kernel is at the heart of Android. They specifically don't use the GNU userland environment. > he (in conjunction with Linus) won over the world. You seem to be painting Linus and RMS in the same light there, which they very much are not. Linus views Open Source as the best way to get great software. RMS views copyleft as the only way to get morally acceptable software, and cares more about preventing companies from making a profit than he does about the actual result.